And Now We Drink Episode 252 with Nolina Nyx

Tonight on And Now We Drink, the tables have turned with guest Matt Slayer and your host Nolina Nyx! After the crew gets their roles squared away Nolina Holds nothing back when she talks about what she is looking for in a partner and mostly in intimacy. Nolina wants a connection with the whole person and and wants to be intimate without being jackhammered. Twitter sneaks in to this conversation when the two share stories about banned accounts and even a sold account belonging to an EX of Matt’s. Matt and Nolina spend some time exploring each other’s self awareness. Also as reminder to all the guys out there, don’t send unsolicited D pics to anyone. Nolina talks about the perfect mate and what a perfect adult industry would look like to her. Nolina’s most important message to all, “love yourself”.

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  Nolina Nyx Sometimes I'm vain when you're doing camera, though. Well, I don't know how to do makeup or shit, though. I'm a hippie.

  Matt Slayer Hippie sometimes do makeup, don't I?

  Nolina Nyx No.

  Matt Slayer No.

  Nolina Nyx All right, let's start the podcast. I mean.

  Matt Slayer The podcast is rolling already. That's. That's what the clap was. That was to sync the audio in the cameras.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, listen, I'm a hippie.

  Nolina Nyx I don't know how to do makeup.

  Matt Slayer So I don't. I don't think people are, you know, flocking to your pornography for the makeup tips.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Yes. True. True.

  Matt Slayer No, no, not a dig on. You're just state, in fact.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, that wasn't a dig. That was really sweet.

  Matt Slayer But they're not going to say yes.

  Nolina Nyx Because they're really just coming from my heart.

  Matt Slayer Yes. Your heart of hearts has absolutely not. Anything to do what you look like when you come. Nathan.

  Nolina Nyx You know what? If they could actually make me come in porn, then things would change. But they have to, like, compound my cervix.

  And make me sorry. You know, just scream.

  Nolina Nyx Well, maybe they do want me to scream. That's actually a lie.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. I mean, most men ideally want their partner to scream like it's ingrained to us. Not like we want our partner to have a screaming orgasm.

  Nolina Nyx I don't think we should do this on this podcast, but, like, let me just start by saying this. Men don't know shit.

  Women lives so fucking minds in the bedroom.

  Nolina Nyx It makes me sick. I don't even know if women know they're lying. Actually, I just don't think a lot of women know what good sex is or, like, what pleasure feels like.

  Nolina Nyx Maybe it's up in their head, and I don't. I support your kinks. Whatever. Well, stuff like dangerous ones.

  Matt Slayer What's a dangerous kink?

  You know, I go in there.

  Matt Slayer Oh, fine, fine.

  I don't want to say the word.

  Matt Slayer All right, all right.

  I mean, okay.

  Nolina Nyx Touch me on loneliness. On podcast, we'll talk about how to have sex. But right now, I'm with Matt Slayer, so.

  Matt Slayer He doesn't know how to have sex. So we're just not going to talk about that. Matt's never had sex before. Not once.

  Nolina Nyx Have you had sex?

  Matt Slayer No. I'm a virgin. Welcome. To The Metzler Virgin Show, folks.

  Nolina Nyx Okay.

  Matt Slayer So we literally just have, like, a 15 minute conversation about one of my former partners before we got on hers.

  Nolina Nyx Sex is is fun, and some girls are really fun as sex. It's just like sometimes maybe their intentions aren't very clear, and it's bringing themselves harm.

  Matt Slayer Well said.

  Okay. Thank you.

  Matt Slayer As Nolan, it's like I'm drinking this bubbled water. I'm not even drinking alcohol on the show.

  Okay.

  Matt Slayer So anything she says is a sober thought. Folks.

  Nolina Nyx I drink coffee today. Oh, it was decaf.

  Matt Slayer Oh, my God. Coffee? Oh, no.

  Nolina Nyx The thing is a drug mat.

  Matt Slayer I know. I'm a giant junkie on that one. Giant? Did you not just watch me slam an energy drink with dinner?

  Nolina Nyx Oh, my God. I can't believe you drink that. It's awful.

  It's horrible. It's horrible for you, and it's horrible.

  Matt Slayer I'll drink to that.

  Cheers.

  Matt Slayer But much like alcohol, it does the fucking trick.

  Nolina Nyx I wouldn't know. I don't drink.

  Matt Slayer You have before, though, right?

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but it's been a minute, and it's been a while.

  Matt Slayer So why don't you drink?

  Nolina Nyx I've always wanted taste horrible, too. There's nothing fun about it. Like, I don't have fun being drunk There's no.

  There's nothing fun about it.

  Matt Slayer There's lots of fun being drunk.

  Nolina Nyx All is just, like, stupid. Well, like, if you do mushrooms or something, you, like, connect with your soul.

  Matt Slayer I mean, there's times where I've connected with myself drunk.

  Nolina Nyx I guess that's also true. Actually, I feel like some of my greatest, like, self Like finding myself. What's this word?

  Nolina Nyx Like self-exploration, self-awareness, experiences, whatever. Was, like, a few times when I drank moonshine growing up. Like, my life definitely changed after a few shots.

  So you're.

  Matt Slayer Just. You're just to feed your own arguments like.

  We did, actually. You called me up.

  Matt Slayer I have some real moonshine right there in the jar.

  Nolina Nyx Where did that come from? Is it from the mountains of Tennessee?

  Matt Slayer It is from Kentucky.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, you really know a moonshiner?

  Matt Slayer Uh huh.

  Matt Slayer You want some moonshine? No, I was just a little taste of moonshine, though.

  It's so fucking.

  Nolina Nyx Strong.

  Matt Slayer Oh, yeah. It's like fuckin awful.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Especially if it's made, like, a real person. Another factor.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. One of my guys who lives on the Indiana Kentucky border has family that lives here in California. So he sent his uncle, what? And visited him and sent it back with his uncle and.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. The best drink I've ever had in my life. Apple pie, moonshine. It really tastes like apple pie.

  Matt Slayer I mean, we had a jar of that, but that. That went away.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I can understand. Okay. That was actually my favorite alcoholic drink ever. But I'm a real North Carolina girl, you know? Should I say that?

  Matt Slayer I mean, you've said it before on air.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, great.

  Matt Slayer I think we would definitely talk about that last time you were on.

  Nolina Nyx I'm from North Carolina. Just North.

  Matt Slayer Carolina.

  Nolina Nyx You I'm not from Los Angeles. Like all these websites.

  Matt Slayer They do the website. So you're from L.A.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, some of them. I don't know. Anyway, let's talk about something more interesting. Like you met Slayer.

  Matt Slayer What do you want to know?

  More women like you told me everything I want to know.

  Matt Slayer Oh, wow. Okay.

  Nolina Nyx Not that you're not interesting. I know you're interesting.

  Matt Slayer You don't have to lie to me on my own show.

  Nolina Nyx What moves your soul?

  Matt Slayer Electrical impulses from my brain.

  You know.

  Nolina Nyx You have a soul night.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. There on the bottom of my feet.

  Matt Slayer Look, nervous system fires like crazy. Okay.

  Nolina Nyx All right, fine. We're just the mind. We're just of the mind. We have these bodies There's nothing else.

  Matt Slayer My decaying prison. Yes.

  Nolina Nyx You're still a miracle. I love you.

  Matt Slayer I love you, too. But that doesn't mean that, like, I'm anything besides, like, you know, there's a fine line between miracle mistake.

  Nolina Nyx Hey, why are you so mean to yourself?

  Matt Slayer Because I don't actually mean it.

  Nolina Nyx Because my parents probably, like.

  Maybe sort of, you.

  Nolina Nyx Know, I hope they don't see this.

  Matt Slayer Do you think your parents watch your content?

  No, but I feel like people in my hometown watch this, and they're like.

  Nolina Nyx Look at this. No.

  Matt Slayer Lena's mom Good thing you're living your life for you.

  Nolina Nyx I'm actually really proud of myself for that. I've been seven years now, like, really?

  Well, I knew I was in a very abusive relationship.

  Nolina Nyx So five years now, I've been doing really well.

  Matt Slayer Unfortunately, it is a tragic way that you got away from that life, but at least you got away and then you got away from the tragic part of it.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Yeah. You know, and my parents are not bad people that we just.

  Matt Slayer There's plenty of people that I don't agree with. I don't think they're bad people. I just think we have a difference of opinion on other things that I'm not willing to conform to what their opinion thinks it should be.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I it's just like it's really hard, you know, like I don't want to talk about my parents all.

  The time, but. Yeah, well.

  Matt Slayer We're not supposed to do a comedy show. I don't think we want to like. So let's talk about your childhood drama.

  So, yeah, I'm actually doing it. Okay. Something funny I don't know.

  Matt Slayer Okay. Just like something funny.

  Go in.

  Matt Slayer I am not a comedian. I am not a comedian.

  This is your comedy show.

  Matt Slayer That it is. I am not a comedian, though.

  Okay.

  Matt Slayer I assume you get up on a stage and they'll tell jokes. No, no, it doesn't happen.

  Nolina Nyx You know, but not all comedians express themselves that way. You have a podcast. If you're going to be a man and you have a podcast, you better be fucking funny.

  Matt Slayer Well, then I'll just put you on what you think I'm putting it into.

  Nolina Nyx Next idea. That's why I'm here. That's why you're amazing. That's not the only reason why. Okay, shut up. Ask me a different question.

  Matt Slayer Michel. Really if it's the purpose of having a podcast, I'm just letting me know. So for the audience at home, this is normally how me and Eleanor's interactions go. I said something ridiculous to her. She laughs at it. And then immediately tells me to shut up. So there is just lines of text of Shut up, Matt, or shut the fuck up or so Ha ha ha ha.

  Matt Slayer Shut up, man.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, this guy is really cool. I don't even know the words to describe, but, like.

  What? How does he exist? Is so real.

  Nolina Nyx He's so himself. Like, nobody else on this planet is like him. It's so cool. He. He's a good person.

  Matt Slayer I'm just a.

  Nolina Nyx Person. He's a good person.

  Matt Slayer As we before we got on there, discussed many of my character flaws.

  Nolina Nyx Listen, you're a real person. We have to talk about duality. People who just try to be perfect all the time. They're not being real. Like, I'm a.

  I'm.

  Nolina Nyx Both. I'm all of it. But I'm a good person.

  Matt Slayer So I don't think I'm a good person. I just think I'm a person because good, bad. Those are all subjective.

  Nolina Nyx Can we talk about something like what is happening? Well, that.

  Is happening now.

  Matt Slayer Right now, I'm trying to illustrate my point. I'm, you know, being good or bad.

  Okay.

  Matt Slayer I feel people are just people because even people that do bad shit in a lot of cases, they don't believe they're doing bad shit. I don't think most people wake up in the morning like, I'm going to do bad shit. But there are people living their lives and their motivations are often just self-serving. They're not.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. The greed is crazy, right?

  Matt Slayer They don't think of themselves as bad people. So it's like finding people with the good or bad. Like it's got their movie. I don't think is a proper look.

  Nolina Nyx There's just people like I wanna hang out with.

  Matt Slayer Well, obviously, but.

  Nolina Nyx I wanna hang out with you, so that means I consider you good.

  Matt Slayer Well, I appreciate that, but once again, it is all relative.

  Nolina Nyx I can and completely I.

  I can't speak. I that's.

  Matt Slayer Great. For podcasting. For podcasting a little bit like I can't talk to my map. Okay, I'm going to sit here and look pretty on camera.

  I agree. Thank you for calling me pretty good cameras.

  Matt Slayer No, she is pretty vocal. She is pretty she is pretty Oh, my God. So for the audio audience, there is a whole fucking to do about not only this camera angle and making sure that she looks good on camera and then she just did the full on like double chin, double chin.

  And every time I'm around.

  Nolina Nyx Kids, I'm like, let's do a double chin contest. It's so much fun. That's so sweet. Okay, because the camera is shot above my face. I have a fucking double chin.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, you're human with human imperfections.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Just beautiful, actually.

  Matt Slayer Oh, my. Oh, my God. Your real peoples. You were not created in the factory.

  Nolina Nyx I literally am not like I do have this hair but I try to keep it real. But not that it's wrong to Iraq.

  Matt Slayer And I'm working right now to American, eh? To pay for your pubes. That's a thing.

  Nolina Nyx Where he's like, Is that common?

  No. Oh, that's the.

  Matt Slayer Joke.

  That's a joke. Just like.

  Nolina Nyx A dude. I don't know this. These people are getting everything here in L.A..

  Matt Slayer But, yeah, Americans are.

  Nolina Nyx I don't know what's what's real anymore.

  Matt Slayer I I mean, they're real. I just don't know why anyone would use one.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, that's really where. I mean, unless you're doing, like, the 800 porno, which is what I'm.

  Matt Slayer Doing, right? That's why I ask, like, you're doing a porno. Maybe they're like, yo, we're going to bring back that 1800s bush.

  You know, I just.

  Nolina Nyx Give it out for a month. It's good enough okay. So it was something else.

  Matt Slayer Oh, we don't want to talk about the hair on your labia.

  No.

  Matt Slayer Oh, fine. We will not talk about the hair on your labia at the moment.

  Nolina Nyx I have hair on my labia right now, guys. It's beautiful. It's natural hot. My lovers love it. So spicy, you know?

  Matt Slayer Hey, whatever makes you happy. Shit.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I feel like the happiness is really coming out right now.

  Matt Slayer We go full body hair, just loaded with pets.

  Nolina Nyx All my girlfriends, they don't shave their armpits and they don't shave their legs. And I want to do that, but, like, I guess I don't have the self-confidence yet. No, you know, I just don't like the way it feels, actually.

  Matt Slayer Fair enough.

  Yeah, I.

  Nolina Nyx And feel weird.

  Matt Slayer Literally, all you have to do is do nothing, and it'll happen.

  Nolina Nyx Which, you know, I love that. Like, doing nothing was my favorite.

  Matt Slayer What was that.

  Doing?

  Nolina Nyx Like, this is my favorite. I like. I love meditating. I love it.

  Matt Slayer But is meditating really doing nothing?

  Nolina Nyx That was very much of you. I was a Zen Buddhist of you before. Not know those deep I was deep. I hang out with a lot of these guys. They don't know anything compared to what you know, not Slayer.

  Matt Slayer Full name.

  Okay.

  Matt Slayer Well, in an ex Slayer.

  I should get a middle name Molina next.

  Nolina Nyx Nolita or something.

  Matt Slayer It's got to be with an end. So you just do.

  Nolina Nyx Know Lena, not Nix.

  Matt Slayer And three and three in the house.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, this is really stupid. Let's talk about some.

  Matt Slayer Interesting, stupid things on the show. Happen all the fucking time. Did you could be an end cubed or something?

  Don't get that on.

  Matt Slayer The mikes are good. They're not that good.

  Okay, so we just growls, right? When you said that.

  Matt Slayer The stomach approves of and Cube.

  Does. Okay, what were you talking about? And Cube.

  Nolina Nyx So we talked about porn or something.

  We can talk.

  Matt Slayer About whatever you want, talk about whatever you want to.

  Nolina Nyx Talk about. Okay, so listen, everyone's wondering about my porn.

  Matt Slayer I Yes.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Did I ever leave? Not really. Okay.

  Matt Slayer Are we just rewriting history? Here, or are you just rewriting history here?

  Like, do I leave? No.

  Matt Slayer No little next to leaders off off the internet for a little while there. No, not at all.

  Still.

  Matt Slayer Did she stop responding to anyone that she didn't know in real life? No, that didn't happen. She's been here the whole time. You horny bastards just didn't realize it. You have been unfaithful to Noel in a building near me. Two other fucking people. Well, she's been here the whole time.

  Nolina Nyx No, they still have invading their meat to me. They keep watching my scenes.

  Matt Slayer But you miss the news stuff. It was there. I promised.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Okay. It wasn't there in the physical reality yet, but, like, I was creating it internally.

  Matt Slayer You were baking the pornography inside you. Like, what is happening.

  Is, like, what am I going to do? Can I do what I want to do?

  Matt Slayer Are you an Easy-Bake Oven? You're just like, we're building in a little plot to pornography.

  Nolina Nyx Something just hit me recently, like a few months ago.

  Matt Slayer You really should duck when that happens.

  Nolina Nyx To set up. So I realized, what if I have sex on camera that I would enjoy? I would have thought, would have thought.

  Matt Slayer Right? You're just coming in here, given me COVID. What is happening right now?

  Nolina Nyx I mean, like speaking or even on my amazing erotica film. Check it out when it comes out. I don't know when that will be. Could be years from now. We know.

  We never know.

  Matt Slayer Right? It's not like you do press junkets unless it's a real big movie.

  Okay.

  Nolina Nyx Anyway.

  Matt Slayer Anyways, so you wanted to create pornography that you'd enjoy.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Like instead of this like okay.

  Girls.

  Matt Slayer Sorry. I'm in a new moment. That was hot.

  Nolina Nyx For, like, maybe like, something. It is even mean that I can't get fucked hard. I just need it to have some rhythm. Like, I need, like to feel good I don't have a lot of time to try and teach all the men of the world right now how to have sex, but it's. It's got to be, like, more than this shit.

  Matt Slayer Well, no, you've got to rotate your hips and like, yeah, penetrated all the walls.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, and. And it's more than that. It's it's you have to have some essence. Like, come on, contact some you know, I'm not going to want to have babies with you. I just. I need some sensuality. And they think sensuality just means, like, the slow touch, which is fucking amazing. And I love it. But not always. Not always.

  Matt Slayer Least for me and my personal appearance with my one or two partners that your virginity oh, by the end of the show, like, the actual number will somehow come out. But that's right. I'm a virgin. I've read about that.

  You okay?

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Tell me. I want to know.

  Matt Slayer It depends on the mood. There are definitely time and place for a fucking fast. Hard. Just like we are so hot and bothered tearing each other's clothes off and just going for it.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Okay. I can't say I haven't had those experiences really. Now, when I have those certain guys in my life, like, we fucking. We will do that. But, like, it lasts like, we fucking go.

  Matt Slayer I'm not saying it has to be over quick. I'm just saying there are time in a place where it's is like, holy fuck, I want you right now.

  Right.

  Matt Slayer Right.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

  Matt Slayer Like, are you, are you visually thinking of one right now? Just like, every time.

  Nolina Nyx I'm thinking of a very specific time. The the really cool thing. I think the reason I'm thinking about this one and why it was so good is because, like, yeah, he wanted it as bad as me, but like, he fucking knew that making me wait if my handler do not look at them.

  It's.

  Matt Slayer Stopping something. I'm just. You're fine.

  Anyway.

  Nolina Nyx But, like, he, like, want it just as bad, but, like, he, like, made me, like, wait for it and, like, that made it even better. Like, that makes it even hotter. When it's, like, that tension is building up and we're.

  Matt Slayer Like, well, I get that. I got that a my I've been led to believe that, like, if a dude seems too eager or it seems too is women often lose interest, right?

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. It's really actually lame. Like, you think I get enough of that on a daily basis. I need something like something because I'm not. I've grown up a lot and I've had a lot of sex, so I kind of just I don't get so pulled into what most women probably do.

  Matt Slayer What do you think? Most women are getting pulled into this bullshit? Like, what.

  Nolina Nyx Make of this fuck?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah.

  Nolina Nyx Like, come on, let's feel something. We're alive, feel each other, and like.

  Matt Slayer I don't know, throbbing genitals. Sometimes there's a feeling.

  Nolina Nyx Listen, it's not just your genitals. It's your whole body. Like, have you, like, had that like.

  Matt Slayer I mean, that sounds exhausting.

  Nolina Nyx That is not energizes you.

  Matt Slayer Those are a.

  Joke.

  Matt Slayer Okay, so there's was a joke on the line.

  Nolina Nyx Sorry. This is a comedy show.

  Matt Slayer Last I checked.

  Nolina Nyx I'm trying to be like a sex educator here.

  Matt Slayer There will be no education on the show. Thank you.

  Totally.

  Matt Slayer So you have a Mexican post we will be cutting all educational portions out of the show.

  You Mad Slayer.

  Matt Slayer There will be no education on. And now we drink. Goddammit, and I've said it before. I'll say it again. Don't listen up, podcasters. Don't take advice from us.

  I'm not.

  Nolina Nyx A podcast. And as a guest on the.

  Matt Slayer Show, I know that sometimes doesn't me.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, so I'm going to be doing some porn.

  Matt Slayer And I love that. That was an amazing Segway. A lot of that was it was like, okay, I don't know what to what to do with Matt now. So I'm going to do pornography.

  Nolina Nyx I don't know what that means. Yeah, it's over. I've done some porn this week, which is awesome. So we'll see where it goes.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. Happy to be back in the saddle, as it were.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I just like need I can like let's, let's like have fun. I know you get to make a lot of money. I know you get like all the fame and like all this cool stuff and you get to be cool. Like, you know, I know you got to be so cool, but, like, it's so important you, like, enjoy the moments of your life, like, here and now.

  Nolina Nyx Like, here I am with Matt Slayer. Like, it's so cool.

  Matt Slayer So many full names.

  Nolina Nyx Matt Slayer, did you get married?

  Matt Slayer No, no. Left at the altar. Thanks. Thanks for bringing up the painful memory.

  Thanks.

  Matt Slayer Thanks.

  Matt Slayer I well, actually, I don't know if I told the story on air yet or not, but apparently my ex fiance, his Twitter account got sold to another performer when she retired. Like apparently a performer.

  Nolina Nyx Kim, by people's account.

  Matt Slayer More so. The performer who bought the account had her account fucking terminated by Twitter. So my ex, down to the other performer bought her account, and so she'd have a of following already.

  Nolina Nyx Is this what people do?

  Matt Slayer I didn't.

  Nolina Nyx I only have three thoughts. I don't know. Can I borrow? Can I buy your account months later? But you probably do the same amount. Yeah. Yeah. Think if someone else.

  Matt Slayer But it was really weird because like, it seemed to me and that performer had been following each other on her previous accounts. I didn't think anything other of like, her following me on her current account. I wanted to Emma about something and saw all these old albums and was super confused about it because they were like two. So when I was involved with.

  Matt Slayer Oh, wow. Because like, the last one was like from 2014 about like, yo, I said you could come to Australia with me and I'm like, I definitely never invited this girl to Australia. Like, I know, I know audience. I do throw around. So I'm like, Hey, you should take a vacation with me. Do a lot of random people I may have like offered to throw some miles if I could.

  Matt Slayer Rory, when she was on the show recently.

  Nolina Nyx I love Rory.

  And I love you, Rory. I like.

  Matt Slayer I definitely never like was involved with this person in a way were like, I, I've never done the show. I've never interacted with them in a place where I would even joke about this. And I was so confused, I screwed up and like, saw my fiance's real name. I'm like, what the fuck? I like messenger because you know her.

  Matt Slayer And I was like, yo, did you sell your Twitter account to someone?

  Oh, my gosh.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. I'm like, Oh, okay. Did you delete the DMS on your side? Or could this girl go back through, like, all our conversations?

  Nolina Nyx That's so wild.

  Matt Slayer It was super confusing for a moment. I was just like.

  Nolina Nyx I can't believe people buy people's Twitters.

  On.

  Matt Slayer One hand. Like, I didn't know what's happening. On the other hand, like, not surprising. Well, think about it like a you have a performer who's retiring and has no use for the how many thousands of followers they have anymore. Like if they want to go to a civilian, private civilian life.

  Nolina Nyx You know, it's so interesting. This is like a thing in society. Because my mind can't understand it because I already live so far outside of society. Okay, that's a different conversation. But I just needed to say that, like, whatever you have sex on camera, like.

  Right?

  Nolina Nyx But when I show everyone, I want to show everyone.

  Matt Slayer Well, she at this point has decided that she wants to be married and have children and live a completely different life. And that's more than fine.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, it's completely fine. I just wish that we could integrate that. There's, like, nothing so obscene about having sex on camera.

  Matt Slayer Well, there isn't. There isn't.

  Hopefully. Hopefully, a lot of a lot of people do more blog.

  Matt Slayer Maybe one day I'll get to have sex, folks. Maybe one day.

  Nolina Nyx I hope he does. I know if you girls, they ask for a little something, but.

  Matt Slayer Well, thanks. Thanks to. I'm sure to not take you up on that.

  Matt Slayer I thought your. I know a couple of girls who don't want to yell jumped your bones. And I'm like, oh, really? I was about real fucking. Yeah, I know. Some girls. You could pay them like a lot less excited, a lot less exciting, like. Yeah, I didn't know you had some girls were like, oh, yeah, I saw you a Maddox RC Oh, he's cute.

  Matt Slayer Like.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, yeah. Because I mean, I was there with two of their girlfriends, and I'm pretty sure they both have, like.

  Boyfriend.

  Matt Slayer I'm not trying to holler at any of them. That's fine.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Anyway, why why do I feel so high right now?

  Matt Slayer I have no clue.

  Like you're.

  Matt Slayer Literally drinking water.

  Speaking like circles or something.

  Nolina Nyx We're speaking in circles a little bit.

  Matt Slayer No, no, we can go back to the tape. We're not speaking in circles.

  Nolina Nyx I probably. I don't even need alcohol.

  I'm going. Okay.

  Matt Slayer Are you having fun?

  Nolina Nyx I'm having so much fun. I love this thank you so much. I really wanted to be back on this show. It's my favorite podcast.

  Matt Slayer Oh.

  Oh, oh, oh. Oh.

  Nolina Nyx He's a softy.

  Matt Slayer Sometimes. Sometimes I'm a giant asshole. It all depends on where you get me.

  Nolina Nyx Why can't people just love themselves?

  Matt Slayer I love myself a lot. Well, why do you think I stay a virgin?

  Matt Slayer So I was waiting for that. That that's how I know a joke's hit with the ladies. Just put up. Shut up.

  Nolina Nyx Okay.

  Matt Slayer Little inside baseball. I do this for comedic effect. Do you think I believe any of this? Should I say about myself? Right do you think I am wallowing in such self-pity?

  Nolina Nyx No, I don't think that at all. That's why I'm here. Not with.

  Matt Slayer You. Well, yeah. When you really love yourself more, man.

  Nolina Nyx I just meant, like, it's not just you. It's the whole thing is like just writing whatever. I am a virgin goddess on the walk.

  Matt Slayer It limit the person more identifies with their losses than their wins.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, because people don't know how to love themselves.

  Matt Slayer That may be true.

  Nolina Nyx But I'm hanging out with you, Matt Slayer. Because you know yourself. I do. That means you love yourself or you're on that journey of continuing to love yourself.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, depends on the day.

  Nolina Nyx Because we're not perfect.

  Matt Slayer Oh, no, I'm wildly flawed. Wildly flawed.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but, like, that's the coolest thing ever to be flawed. Like what? How we were so real. Like, we're so flawed and we're so open about it. Like, that's so cool.

  Matt Slayer I it just is what it is. Like, I don't see the point in wasting energy and telling lies about, like, things that are not like, oh, we're going to pass that over with a lie. Like, nah, nah, nah. I'm just going to own them. Like, I'm a flawed human being.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, it's amazing. That's the cool. It's so cool.

  Matt Slayer I'm glad you think so. I just know I think there are more important things in life than, like, just trying to convince people you're cool.

  Nolina Nyx This is the weird thing about L.A., right? Well, you already are. And then, like, it just gets weird the more you try.

  Matt Slayer As I've gotten older, and I often think that, like, in most cases, when someone has to verbally tell me they're a thing, they're not. When you tell me I'm really smart, like, you're probably not.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, listen, I'm really smart.

  Matt Slayer Okay?

  Nolina Nyx I'm a goddess.

  Matt Slayer Okay?

  Nolina Nyx I'm amazing.

  Matt Slayer I'm not disagreeing with you in all of this, but I'm saying the actions speak louder than words, right?

  Nolina Nyx Some people, though, can say it and act it.

  Matt Slayer I'm not disagreeing, but I'll give you a great example. Was at the party on Thursday hanging out with a wooden. A deer sat in a deer like his on his, you know. Did you read?

  Nolina Nyx Yeah.

  Matt Slayer He's on his own crazy journey right now, which is awesome.

  Nolina Nyx That's amazing.

  Matt Slayer Like, he kitted out a crazy van and got on this crazy fitness routine and, like.

  Wow, yeah.

  Nolina Nyx It's so cool.

  Matt Slayer That he just got back from Italy, so it was great to see him. But him and I were just talking to this dude, this dude, like, never seen before my life. Just starts of the most awkward conversation I've ever seen. This is, like, are you guys in porn? Like, yeah, man. Why do you think we're here? Like, well, what are you doing?

  Matt Slayer Porn? I'm like, every time someone asks me what I do in porn, I generally give some bullshit answer. Like, some other girl I met. Like, so what do you do? I'm like, I eat, I breathe, I shit. She was not impressed with that answer.

  Nolina Nyx Right?

  Matt Slayer Don't also don't care. This dude's just like, Oh, I'm Talib. I have an 11 inch cock. It's just like.

  Nolina Nyx Oh.

  Matt Slayer He just turns into Zuckerberg's cock. I'm like.

  Oh, we're both inside.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Yeah, you actually make a really good point. Here. Like, people like this dude, this kind of stuff.

  Matt Slayer Like, I'm like, whoa.

  Nolina Nyx Also, can we just, like, since we're on this subject, they'll be like other, like, male talent out there. And they'll want to make, like, content, and then they just want to, like, talk me into it by talking about their cock. Like, that's what I really care about. Like, you're so stupid. Like, they're so stupid, man. And then they'll send you a picture of us sometimes, and I'm like, Oh, yeah, it's not when I want sex with someone.

  Nolina Nyx Like, Yeah, do I like big cock? I love big cock, but it's not like it's the whole person. Like, Who are you as a person? How do you speak to another person? It has nothing to do with your cock.

  Matt Slayer This has been something that's been discussed on it before. It's one of those and just like, Oh, well, dudes like big tits, they're like fat asses. They like, they're like visuals of the women. They don't when they're like, Oh, well, if that's what I like on a woman, my big dick is probably what she wants to see on me.

  Matt Slayer They don't actually put themselves in the other side of, like, what you potentially want. They're just, you know, like, if I was a chick, I want to see a big dick. This is this is a theory. This completely unproven.

  Nolina Nyx I Okay. But honestly, man, you're a smart man.

  Okay?

  Nolina Nyx You can give me this answer.

  Matt Slayer I might be able.

  Nolina Nyx There could be some very beautiful women, but they maybe don't have the greatest personalities or they're really boring because they're just so obsessed with what they look like.

  Matt Slayer So in my twenties as a teenager, in my twenties, I probably would have shed some of those girls to the ends of the fucking earth, right? Probably would have been like, Oh, my God.

  Nolina Nyx That's why I don't date guys in their twenties.

  Matt Slayer As an older man who has to put up with your shit.

  Right?

  Matt Slayer Not about that life.

  Nolina Nyx Right? It's just like, grow up.

  Matt Slayer One of the people we met before we got on here is not necessarily like my ideal body type of like what I'm normally attracted to, but she's really cool. So I was like, Check the box for me.

  Nolina Nyx I mean, that's what I like more like, yeah, I want to be like, if I'm going to have sex with someone, I have to be attracted to them, period. I have to be. But a lot of that, like, is like, I don't know how they hold themselves, who they are, and that's always unique for every person, but I like.

  Just.

  Nolina Nyx People who are grown up, like you don't have to be perfect. And that's part of it. Like accepting that you're not perfect and accepting that, like you don't need to be like the prettiest thing on the planet to be loved.

  Matt Slayer To be fair, I will still very much focus on who's very ready and then just leave well.

  Nolina Nyx There's a certain celebrities I can't think of who like maybe they're absolutely gorgeous. And if I met them, like randomly and I just didn't, like, find them interesting, I just like leave like.

  Matt Slayer Oh, I plan to shortly after orgasm.

  Nolina Nyx Well.

  Matt Slayer Because something of my lizard.

  Nolina Nyx Brain orgasm.

  Matt Slayer Because something in my lizard brain says you should attempt to meet with this. This will help your genetic pool even though I have zero desire to actually meet with them.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. I understand your biological explanation for that.

  Matt Slayer Sometimes the lizard brain just takes over and it's like, oh, that is where I'm supposed to try to deposit my seed.

  Nolina Nyx I know men in my life and not all of them are perfect and fucking. They would just fuck anything sometimes, maybe, but like the ones I'm just naturally attracted to, like, don't go for that shit. Like, I just realize that, like.

  Matt Slayer For me personally, honestly, sober Matt is like, no, weighing all the life. Do you suck as a human? Am I attracted to you? Like, all these, right? Very drunk and horny. Matt's like, Oh, you're down to fuck let's fall.

  Okay. Okay. Yes, yes, yes.

  Nolina Nyx I understand.

  Matt Slayer My inhibitions are pretty low, like, normally. So when you have something that is going to chemically lower my inhibitions, shit goes off the rails.

  Nolina Nyx Sometimes you're helping me understand people because I don't really understand people sometimes. So thank you.

  Matt Slayer You're welcome. I mean, I didn't realize that my story just led to the common denominator, but.

  Okay, no.

  Nolina Nyx Drinking, though, like that. Like.

  Matt Slayer Oh, yeah. No, I definitely I my buddy's wedding in 20, 15, and like, I've told the story, I don't like literally was sobering up inside it inside someone and being like, why am I here?

  Nolina Nyx Let's try this.

  Matt Slayer But yeah, I was really sad for me. Yeah, I was really sad for and shit on top who'd like, not been very attractive. Turned out to be a horrible fucking person. I was really unhappy with what what drunk Matt did that night?

  Nolina Nyx Well, yeah, we learn from our mistakes.

  Matt Slayer Sometimes.

  Nolina Nyx We learn from a lot of mistakes.

  Matt Slayer I have definitely.

  Lifetimes of mistakes.

  Matt Slayer I made a lot of bad drunk hookups in my day. I definitely fucked one of my friends. Roommate Night, our friend. Someone I was sleeping with on the regular roommate at her birthday party.

  Drunk. Wow.

  Matt Slayer Well, we weren't in any way, shape or form, like, I was staying at their house, but this was a full time road warrior, and like, my home base was like their spare bedroom, and I was in town for her birthday party. I'm like, no. I'm like, oh, it's my job to fuck the birthday girl. Duh. I we've been fighting forever.

  Matt Slayer And she's like, oh, I'm going to go hook up with something else. I'm like, Cool. Happy birthday. And don't like I was going to drunkenly just go to bed and pass out and her roommates like Warren Company want. Yeah, sure.

  Yeah, that's normal. Yeah.

  Matt Slayer Not nobody was happy in that situation.

  Nolina Nyx That's so interesting. I like that's another thing I've, I really just try to have sex, like, oh, especially over the past year. Like the people I want to have sex with are like people who can, like, get over their fucking bullshit and their ego and like, if I'm, if it's already like, an open thing, like, you know, I'm having sex with other people.

  Nolina Nyx I don't play jealousy. Like, please. And that doesn't mean jealous. We don't all feel jealousy, and it's okay to feel but like, have an adult conversation about about it with me. And don't be like, you know, all this other baggage. Like, let's have a conversation for sure.

  Matt Slayer For sure. I mean, like, my whole thing with anything that's open, like first of all, I don't do open relationships. I'd like the point where it's a relationship. It's a relationship.

  Nolina Nyx Okay.

  Matt Slayer Like, if we're just hanging out and having sex, that's not a relationship. But in the way I would define a relationship. How about that?

  Nolina Nyx Right.

  Matt Slayer Okay, we're hanging out. We're having sex. What? You're free to do whatever the fuck you want. Like, once we're. It's defined as a road trip. We got to sit down and have ground rules and, like, set rules and all that fun.

  Nolina Nyx Like, boundaries and stuff. That's so important. Yeah.

  Matt Slayer But it's also, like, at the point where it develops into a relationship, like, even if we agree, like, we're forcing other people, whatever. Like, I want to be a priority, and that's really just what I want.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I, I completely can agree with that. I think another thing with, like, relationships with me, like, if I'm with someone and we really have something going just the two of us and they they want to have sex with other people, it really matters to me that they treat other people with respect because for some reason there's a lot of people in open relationships and then they have sex with other people, but they think they can just treat that woman like just because that's not their girlfriend, right?

  Matt Slayer That person is their fuck toy.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. And I'm like, no, like I like if I was someone's girlfriend, which I'm nobody's girlfriend, single me up.

  I'm I.

  Nolina Nyx I like I just like.

  Matt Slayer I just know how poorly everyone had everyone listen to show you how poorly that will go.

  Yeah, that's also true because I don't like the.

  Nolina Nyx But like you have to treat other people with respect because it's just like, come on. Like, we're all connected. We're all connected, but not even like I don't mean to get all spiritual about that. Like, it's just how you treat other people is how you treat yourself. How you treat your partner. Like being aware. I'm just being aware.

  Matt Slayer And know it. I've done some disrespectful shit. I'm sure you have in your life, too.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, for sure.

  Matt Slayer Does that make us bad people? No. So that doesn't make us good people.

  Nolina Nyx But I do think that honestly, trying to be better about things like that's the work. Like, at least we care. I think we.

  Matt Slayer Care. It's also important to acknowledge that like, oh, hey, I wasn't necessarily the best person there for sure.

  Nolina Nyx But it's also realizing that there's a lot of people in this world who maybe don't have. We can say it's like the confidence to care about things like they just don't care.

  Matt Slayer Well, I think in some cases it's they don't care. Or in some cases they're too self-absorbed to care. Like, they don't they don't even realize that, like.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, exactly, exactly. There's a lot of that in the porn industry. That's why I, I mean, Amy, when you talk to you in society, they're going to be like, why would you go into porn? I heard it's a very traumatic place to be, and. But usually they'll say, but that's really cool that you're in there. But like, they aren't wrong.

  Nolina Nyx Like, I had a lot of traumatic experiences in porn because people don't know how to be respectful people.

  Matt Slayer Well, unfortunately, this is the land of misfit toys.

  Nolina Nyx Right.

  Matt Slayer Now. Most people didn't go to career day in third grade, like, what do you want to be when you grow up? A porn star most people didn't grow up in LA when they're grown up. Like, I want to be a sex worker.

  Nolina Nyx It's true. Yeah.

  Matt Slayer You know, everyone has a YouTube story of how and why they got here, but a lot of times there's a reason you walked the fucking alternative road to get here.

  Nolina Nyx Right?

  Matt Slayer And a lot of it, a lot of it, myself included, didn't really weigh the consequences of being here.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. I mean, I feel like I personally did I just have a very unique life, though.

  Matt Slayer I guess when I got in the industry, I'm older. I was older than than you are now, but, you know, and you're still not like some 18 year old.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, that's breaks my heart. Like, that's really hard. But I was 19, like, I was 20 when I got into sex work. 19, I was in a like bad relationship. So, like, I feel like I've had a lot of trauma to like so much trauma that like, I can't not care. Like, I have to care because I can't think of like this boss just continuing on with, like, people knowing and just acting like it's okay or like maybe that they know it's not okay, but you can't really do anything about it.

  Nolina Nyx But I'm just going to be myself and I'll just speak my truth, you know, that's the best thing I can do. And a lot of people don't have courage to do that well.

  Matt Slayer And luckily, we're in an age of pornography where if you so desired, you could be completely self employed.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Which is super.

  Cool.

  Nolina Nyx Super cool.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. When I got in. Yeah, the studio system is where you had to work. You had to work for companies, you had to get booked. And in the case anymore.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, it's really changes everything, right? And you get to have like a personality. So cool.

  Matt Slayer People definitely were allowed to have personalities back then.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. But they didn't have social media and the fact that they could like really be a person, like, really show the world like I'm a person outside of this.

  Matt Slayer Just how long this thing I've been in Twitter, it's been around since like 2008.

  Nolina Nyx I'm so lost on Twitter.

  And this maybe this is true. Like.

  Matt Slayer I was definitely on Twitter before I started working in the industry, like social media existed.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. But I feel like now people it's like even bigger, right?

  Matt Slayer It is. It is. And it has its own fucking hurdles now because like, when I first got in, Twitter wasn't censoring shit, so you could.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, I didn't know that.

  Matt Slayer Yeah.

  Well.

  Matt Slayer There's no shadow banning or any of that shit.

  Nolina Nyx Wow.

  Matt Slayer So it's a weird state of the world because it's like we're involved with the product that everyone fucking consumes, but no one wants to admit they consume and therefore are okay with punishing it to varying degrees.

  Nolina Nyx Oh my gosh. Yeah. People don't realize that they're just slaves to the system. And, like, it's so weird to watch. It's really weird to watch in porn because, like, these are like the rebels and they're just like, not everyone. Some people are super cool, but like, a lot of them are just like, enslaving themselves to the same consumerist bullshit like they are.

  Matt Slayer They are, to a degree, and for sure.

  Nolina Nyx But it's changing. And, you know, you're a 23 year old girl. Like, life is just starting this is huge. Like to make your own money. That's amazing.

  Matt Slayer And possibly more money than you would have made in any other field.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. And you get like crazy freedom I just care about like the whole world. So I think a lot. But like, I don't mean to like, blame other people in porn or who do like adult entertainment. It's just like, I just need to make sure what I put out is authentic to myself. Aside from money and all of that extra.

  Matt Slayer And that's important to some people are just here to collect a paycheck.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, that completely makes sense. I've traveled the world a lot, so I see how like this affects this and this affects this. So I don't, I just like to know I like, yeah, that's what matters to me.

  Matt Slayer So what are you doing to affect change?

  Nolina Nyx I think, you know, art is like our way to go, right? One thing is just like working on myself, right? It's like the best thing you can do for any anything is to do your own in or work and work on yourself. Try to be better and never try to be perfect. Just care, you know, and I think having being authentic in the sex I'm having on camera and I know you have to do, like, weird angles and stuff, but like, I have to, like, not just get hammered and pretend that's okay because that's just completely traumatizing to my body.

  Nolina Nyx So I'm just teaching people that trauma to my body is okay and like me just say no. Like I don't want to do that is huge. And me saying it so publicly, I think that's huge. Because people like people tell me every day like, wow, you're so amazing. You're, you're like, you're just speaking the truth. And I can really tell they stuff like this and I know a lot of people might not get it, but trust me, there's a lot of people who do.

  Matt Slayer No matter what you're espousing, anything not everyone's going to get it. The only thing that has the kind of market reach where everyone gets is like fucking Coca-Cola. Otherwise, nothing else reaches everybody.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. And it's I mean, that's all I want people to think for themselves. Like, you know, like, they have to find your way on your own. It's just, like, inspires like, if I'm living in my truth, that feeds another person to live in their truth. And I think a lot of people want to, but they don't know how this world.

  Matt Slayer Well, and unfortunately, some people sort of suck.

  Also true.

  Nolina Nyx It's like the girls act like little girls. I hate that shit. Oh, I hate it so much.

  Matt Slayer Or the people that are just entitled because of in a lot of cases, they're dumb.

  Nolina Nyx Fucking luck. Yeah. This is another thing I've talked to other porn girls about. Like these. Really? Some of these. Really. I'm just talking about porn. Because this is like referring to the porn industry, but, like, they know all these, like, super famous porn stars and they treat like the other girls like shit. Because they're, like, on this big ego trip.

  Nolina Nyx And this is just like, what I've heard from a few girls. I've heard this since, like, I started in the industry, and I found it to be true. Like, they'll follow you on Twitter and then they'll.

  Unfollow you.

  Nolina Nyx After. And it's like, what are you trying to prove to anyone? Like, like, that's you're like, we're in it together. You got to be good to people. Come on.

  Matt Slayer Some older performers maybe threatened by a new enough upcoming like in their mind, like, oh, you may be potentially taking fucking money out of my pocket.

  Nolina Nyx It's just a sad way to think because there's like, sex is like the easiest thing to sell in a way. Like this and never there's a million ways to sell it.

  Matt Slayer There is, but not everyone sells it well.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but like, like, for me, if I was successful and probably I'm not going to take from anyone, they're probably just going to well, I might call people out on their own bullshit, but.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, but you may be inadvertently in their mind be taken from them. It's like, oh, if another yo Brunet who looks kind of like them, you're another Brunet who kind of looks like them. You're new and you haven't done as many scenes you may be more desirable to people that do casting and their mind like, Oh, I would have gotten that part if no, Lena wasn't here.

  Nolina Nyx Right? That makes sense. It's like a sad thing, like feeding this competition also, especially with women, is like the fucking problem.

  With.

  Nolina Nyx Designing. This is so fucking annoying.

  Matt Slayer Well, and unfortunately, though it's almost an unlimited marketplace for self-created content. It's not an unlimited marketplace for things that have budgets like the amount of studio produced porn. It's still happening quite a bit, but it's not like it's unlimited.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I think a lot of it, though. If we look at it, it's like a system and it's just another patriarchal system. And once women start coming together and start playing that bullshit game, then things are changing and we all start winning.

  Matt Slayer Well, the problem is it's entertainment. Unfortunately, there's going to be some losers.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, nobody believes me that like the patriarchal bullshit of structure of entertainment it can shift. But I.

  Matt Slayer Think, how would you shift to the ideal.

  Nolina Nyx World? I can't really give you a logical answer yet.

  Matt Slayer How would you shift in an ideal world then?

  Nolina Nyx Well, first of all, I like people need to start telling the fucking truth. Like about.

  Matt Slayer What?

  Oh, God.

  Nolina Nyx I don't know if I want to say this on camera. Let me think. I'm trying to be somewhat careful what I say.

  Matt Slayer This is the wrong show for that lady.

  Nolina Nyx I think like social change, right? And it's not like I don't expect it to happen overnight. Maybe it takes a thousand.

  Matt Slayer Okay, I'm saying if Nolan and X had the power to rearrange everything right here, right now, snap of fingers, you were able to just change everything. What would your ideal system be?

  Nolina Nyx Well, okay, here's the main thing. People would start coming into the realization that they are all they are already enough. You are in.

  Matt Slayer The house that change in the modern system.

  Nolina Nyx Because of the greed of it stops like it doesn't mean that money is bad or anything. It's just like are you being authentic in and it's not even about sex. It's just like how we manipulate systems because, you know, it's just easier to play this stupid game than it is to not play the game. But not playing the game usually pays off more when you.

  Matt Slayer Are actually it's a gamble. It's high risk for potentially high reward. Yeah, it doesn't work out for everybody.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. And I actually I do understand that a lot of people can't do that. I'm happened to be one of those people who could do that. I'm very privileged in many areas. And so I realize that instead of blaming other people, I need to like just take responsibility for that truth. I am super fucking privileged girl. Next door.

  Nolina Nyx Brunet also lived a life, traveled the world, has true love and my life is really fucking smart. I have to grow up. I can just play the game because that's what I was doing before. I was just playing the stupid game and I called myself out for it.

  Matt Slayer It's still living. And so the question, what is the ideal world? If you could change everything, how's it work? What? How does the system look?

  Nolina Nyx Okay, the hippie say the best. It's like, first of all, the the shift of consciousness is, has to happen first. Like it's like even hard to explain it because we're all working from this very, like, closed lens of reality. And once we kind of are able to pull us out of survival mode, then things can really start to like, come into, like, blissful being.

  Nolina Nyx So I don't have a logical explanation for that. That's layer. I'm a hippie. Okay. This shift of consciousness.

  Okay?

  Matt Slayer If it wasn't for money, a lot of people wouldn't be in sex work they're here for the money.

  Nolina Nyx You know, it's so funny. There's a lot of women I know in my life who would do sex work if it wasn't so shameful in society because they actually care about sex. They want to be sex educators and they enjoy like they just enjoy it. And they would love to have ten guys fuck them.

  In a week. I don't know.

  Matt Slayer But why aren't they doing it?

  Nolina Nyx Because it's like, you know, you have to think about Oh, am I going to be able to do this other thing in my life? And what am my parents going to think? What are my friends going to think?

  Matt Slayer Well, I mean, and those are the reasons that people shouldn't do porn. And I've talked about this on there multiple times. Like occasionally I get some female friends of mine, like I've never about doing porn and I'm like, breaks before you do this, you really need to give a thought. Like being a sex worker is not a protected class, a future employer.

  Matt Slayer If you go back to civilian land, 1,000% could fire you forever doing porn and there is zero recourse you have for it that it's potentially a romantically lonely place yeah. You'll have a lot of suitors, but not a lot that are going to be good in the long run.

  Nolina Nyx I completely agree, and I think this is true and I think this is how it is. I think what I'm experiencing is that this no longer has to be the truth anymore because here I am, slutty as ever, and I have plenty of romantic offers in my life.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. How many of them are actually good.

  Nolina Nyx No, I'm serious. Like good men. Good men in my life.

  Matt Slayer Oh, but how many of them are actually a fit for you?

  Nolina Nyx I'm very picky and I'm trying to do.

  Matt Slayer Something that's a big good thing.

  Nolina Nyx But they're not gonna like, you know, like, I, I it's just like my life as Nolan. I like. I don't live to, like, this old story of what it is to be married, you know, like.

  Matt Slayer I'm not in marriage. I'm just talking to, like, someone who's a priority.

  Nolina Nyx There's been I would be interested in because they're good people, like, like, more so than I think a lot of women would be offered. I think that I do have that in my life. I think that the more sexually liberated we become as like, humanity, the more we stop shaming sex workers. We can see the value they bring to our society because the values super I.

  Matt Slayer I don't disagree but and even in my ten posters in the industry, I've seen a lot of societal changes around sex work around performers, but we still have a long fucking way to go.

  Nolina Nyx That's totally true. But I will say this. I am a sex worker. Every time someone asks me what I do for work, I tell them the truth. And usually people take it very well and I don't get a shame like shame from it.

  Matt Slayer And also but why would you care if you did?

  Nolina Nyx Well, I'm just saying that the world is changing. Like, I'm not like in my like actual like physical reality. When I meet people people don't shame me for it. Like people would think. And I have plenty of romantic partners. That's not they don't like my guy. Friends do men. I mean, in my life they don't treat me like I'm not saying I don't meet men in my life.

  Nolina Nyx You treat me like a sexual object, but a lot of them treat me like a human being, like.

  Matt Slayer Oh, my God, yeah. Oh, my God.

  Oh, they.

  Matt Slayer Treat you like a human being because you have sex. Oh, my God. What a radical fucking concept.

  Nolina Nyx I know, but like, it is. It's like. So, like, the the story that, like, if you become a sex worker, you can't have romantic relationships. That's a lie. Like, that's no longer true.

  Matt Slayer There was never exclusive a you can't have romantic relationships. They're exceedingly difficult.

  Nolina Nyx But I think that's changing. Like, I would like to have, like, an open marriage. Like, people are really. I'm also a hippie.

  Matt Slayer Right. But are you saying that like, your romantic relationships since becoming a sex worker have been all easy breezy?

  Nolina Nyx I don't know if any romantic relationships have been easy breezy, but I do think.

  Matt Slayer I do think that is because you're a sex worker or because it's you.

  Nolina Nyx I okay. I think that I meant that to anyone. But like sex work has taught me a lot about people and it has taught me a lot about myself. And in that learning my own behavior, I'm able to connect with people in a more authentic and deeper, deeper level. So in that, like when I actually experience love, it's actually real because I'm being myself.

  Nolina Nyx We're a lot of people are conditioned just to play not just in porn, but in society, just to play this game of what love looks like. And it it's really just codependency that's true.

  Matt Slayer That's, that's very.

  Nolina Nyx True. And that love is like, I would love to just be with one person and maybe we have sexual experience like on our own. Like, that's amazing. And the cab kids and but it's I'm sorry.

  Matt Slayer I'm getting snapped.

  The set up.

  Nolina Nyx It's free, you know, love is free. It's I trust what I do for sex. Work is work.

  Matt Slayer So yeah, but a lot of people can't differentiate that shit.

  Nolina Nyx You know, they don't have that emotional intelligence yet.

  Matt Slayer Well, and that's ingrained in society.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. It's the condition.

  Matt Slayer It's 100% condition. It's reinforced by popular media.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Okay. So I say that it's still not necessarily easy, but I'm saying that it's possible to have good relationships and be a sex worker.

  Matt Slayer And winning the lottery is possible to.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but it's not that rare, actually. People really respect me because, like, I fucking pay attention and why can I see things that other people can't? Because I've experienced sex work so deeply. I understand people.

  Matt Slayer Well, you're the one of the lucky ones that I know a lot of performers, a lot of well established objects are multiple men's desires that have a real time of it, like actually having a real connection with people. And I'm sure is a yeah. On both sides of the fence. They meet a lot of shit dudes and that causes them to put up their walls because they've met a lot of shit dudes.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. And it's a self-perpetuating cycle.

  Nolina Nyx This is true. And I'm just saying that is possible that they don't we there's ways we can shift out of that. Like it's there's good men. All I'm saying is that it seems like impossible, but there are good men in this world.

  Matt Slayer I'm not saying there's not. I'm saying if you were not lonely in an ex, you are just this attractive brunet next door out working some other fucking job that you would potentially have a greater variety of socially acceptable suitors.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but I just wouldn't be as smart. Like, I wouldn't know myself as well. I'd rather know myself.

  Matt Slayer I'm not saying you have taken a wrong path in any way, shape or form. I'm just saying before anyone chooses this line of work, they have to accept that reality for the time being.

  Nolina Nyx For sure. I completely agree. And I think that anyone who does decide to, like, jump off the cliff a little bit and jump into this work, I think, you know, it's like a big thing of your choosing yourself and you could drown or you could thrive in and drowning might be you make a shit ton of money, but you never know love in your life.

  Nolina Nyx And thriving could be you make no money, but you find yourself enough to experience what real love is like. You know, it's it's a gamble, like you said. And I'm just like a person here who's just saying that it's possible, like you can pull yourself out of this place of, like, you think you couldn't be loved because you did this.

  Nolina Nyx But I you you are loved.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, I'm so it can happen. I'm just saying hell. As someone who has never been an actual sex worker, like, yeah, I've been in a few fucking scenes as a non sex performer. I obviously am involved in the industry. Yeah. I get women who discriminate against me.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. But those people don't know what love is. People who discriminate don't fucking get it. People who discriminate to discriminate against sex workers don't know what fucking love is. And so I don't even waste my time with them.

  Matt Slayer And, oh, no, no. I'm more than happy to let the trash see itself out. I'm not changing. Right, but I'm saying, if I was still working like a corporate nine to five job that may have worked out, who knows? I'm not really losing any fucking sleep over it. But I'm saying the discrimination happens against me, and I don't even fuck on film.

  Nolina Nyx That's true. It's crazy. But also they're just looking for a codependent bullshit. You. You want to you.

  Matt Slayer I have no I have no idea what they're looking for. We didn't get that far.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, but listen, you want a woman who can fucking stand on her own, and she doesn't need you to like she already loves herself enough. So she's loving you from a full cup because you also love yourself, Matt.

  Matt Slayer Even if he was themselves, definitely doesn't want me. They know better shut up. Whoa. I can do better than that. Shit.

  Who's that?

  Matt Slayer Hoo hoo! No, no, no, no. I am for women with low self-esteem. Thank you.

  Nolina Nyx Men who are afraid of me because I'm a sex worker. You like. You're wasting my time anyway.

  Matt Slayer Well, for sure. And this is why I'm on dating apps. But this the show is very prominently featured on all my dating apps. Because, like, you know what? I would rather the trash see itself out.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Amen. Good for you. Like, that's why I'm just so open about, like, what I do and who I am, because why waste my fucking time with your low understanding of existence? Exactly.

  Matt Slayer It's like, oh, hey, we went out a couple of days. Oh, I could see myself spending more time with you. I guess I should tell them about, like, yo know, this is going to come over and be on camera in my apartment. Oh, well, that didn't go over very well. Shit.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Low self-esteem. Like.

  Matt Slayer Well, low self-esteem. You know, history may have taught them to be initially distrustful of men.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. I mean, for me, it's so funny when people talk to me about trusting men and, like, they're feeling towards men, because I've. I've never met someone who's been through the amount of trauma I have with men.

  Nolina Nyx I've met people who maybe went through childhood trauma that I haven't been through, but I've been through, like, insane trauma with men. And I don't hate men because I really love men. There's a lot of really good men in this world, and there's a lot of shitty men in this world. And yeah, it's actually knowing that the how shitty men can be in a weird way has helped me love the really, really good ones.

  Nolina Nyx So interesting. So I we get so deep. I'm, I'm a I ask a girl.

  Matt Slayer It's okay. It's okay. I'm, I'm pretty shallow, so I'll bounce about bounces right out.

  You know, use the deep.

  Matt Slayer I'm going to be like that little water the way through till they get to your deepness. And there we go.

  This is what I am like. There's a deep.

  Nolina Nyx Thing like that's like what I say. Like when I say goddess, I don't really mean it like that. I just mean it like this deep, feminine, emotional feeling like I love that. That's me where everyone's scared to go. I go there.

  Matt Slayer Pull foot in the mouth. I got it. You so I get it. I get you.

  Okay. Yeah.

  Matt Slayer Like, that was a joke just for us at the table. Apparently. You know what else is, like, a foot in the mouth?

  But, yeah, I look.

  Nolina Nyx For this girl's foot in my mouth recently.

  Yeah, let's describe.

  Matt Slayer For sure that was just a joke for the table that was not necessarily.

  Know.

  Nolina Nyx You'll catch onto it eventually.

  Matt Slayer That one was not necessary. For the audience. That was just for the people at the table. It becomes hard on a lot of fucking people to get that rejection or to find out that, like, either dudes are misrepresenting themselves or dudes. I feel like on a lot of cases, these dudes are necessarily misrepresenting themselves. They're just don't really know what their own boundaries really are.

  Matt Slayer And they see someone that they are attracted to that they are into, and they tell themselves, I'll be cool with this.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, that makes sense. And I also know, like, men have it hard to like this isn't just this is a human thing. Like, we're all trying to figure it out. Like men are conditioned to be providers and women are conditioned to want a man to provide. And what happens when I don't and it's not even money, it's like emotional.

  Nolina Nyx And I like being protected. Like, what if I'm just a woman who doesn't need any of that because I have it in myself. They don't know what to do with that. Like, usually.

  Matt Slayer That is a difficult situation as a dude because like on one hand, like, oh, you got you. And then it's like, what the fuck? Why did you just leave me there? Like.

  Nolina Nyx Well, it's so cool, though, when a man who has himself like, I don't have to be his emotional support all the time, he can do that for himself. And then we, we are already standing on our own and then we come together because it's just like when I let go and I let him like kind of take care of me and vice versa, he does the same.

  Nolina Nyx It's like we're doing it from a free space. We don't we're not doing it because we have to anymore. Yeah, but we think we have to.

  Matt Slayer If I'm involved with someone, I want to.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, exactly. And I want, I want that too.

  Matt Slayer Know, I want to be there for them, like and I hope that if I'm opening up and, you know, passionate about my day or something that's going on that you give enough of a fuck to actually listen to what I have to say, even if it's something that doesn't necessarily entertain you.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, totally. I think it's just hard because there's just not a lot of people, but I would say like, I really like men. So men in this world who can do that without putting too much of it on me. But there are some men who've done enough inner work who can do that and it won't be too much.

  Matt Slayer How do they know when it is too much? Like.

  Nolina Nyx Unless I don't think it's about like a certain experience. I think it's just who they are as a person. Like, Oh, okay, he's done enough inner work where I can like spend time around him and not feel drained by having to, like, mother him. Well, like, still, I could give him emotional support and like, be there for and sometimes but he's, he, he wants to take care of himself anyway and vice versa.

  Nolina Nyx Like, I don't need someone to be like my daddy.

  Matt Slayer I have my own shit. But yeah, it does feel good if I can gripe about it sometimes. Even if I am handling handle, sometimes I just want to get off my fucking chest.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, I know. And I feel like in a, in a relationship like that would happen and I would be so happy to be there and like, vice versa because, like, I'm not feeling happy every day if I know they're not.

  Matt Slayer You not.

  Nolina Nyx Know.

  Matt Slayer They're not happy. Go lucky about all this horrible shit happening in the world all the time.

  Nolina Nyx I lived there so mad. Like I just started crying sometimes. But it feels.

  Good.

  Nolina Nyx Like, what the fuck why is the Amazon on fire? Likewise, it's.

  Matt Slayer It's really flammable.

  Nolina Nyx It's crazy, like, going down there.

  Matt Slayer Nothing on that.

  Shot. Oh.

  Nolina Nyx And just, like, something so miraculous and alive and, like, we're just destroying it with our bullshit consumerism.

  Matt Slayer I mean, we are temporarily impeding it after humanity is gone. That's it's going to bounce right the fuck back.

  This is true.

  Matt Slayer Like, we are just temporarily impeding that shit. Like.

  Nolina Nyx Stupid aside, sad because they don't care. Like, the earth.

  Matt Slayer Will rebound.

  Nolina Nyx I know the earth likes humanity.

  Matt Slayer Does it? Does it really? It seems like to want to kill us at every fucking possible.

  Nolina Nyx I think if it, I think it would have already killed us. Like, I think it's just like can the young little humans grow up? Like, come on, take care of yourself, take care of the earth, take care of each other. It's not that hard.

  Matt Slayer Apparently it.

  Nolina Nyx Is. I have realized I've realized it's a hard concept for me to wrap my head around.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, just. I really was hoping this it was going to fall apart after I was dead. I didn't really want to be, like, on the pages of someone's fucking history book.

  Nolina Nyx I know, right?

  Matt Slayer But now. No, no, no. We could be in the next generation's history books.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, if there's even a history books or another generation.

  Matt Slayer The Supreme Court itself is going to make sure there's going to be a new generation.

  Oh, that's a really good point.

  Matt Slayer Is that a bunch of traumatized, unwanted children? Here we go.

  Said.

  Matt Slayer I'm not doing it to your part. Get snipped.

  Nolina Nyx He's going to get a vasectomy.

  Matt Slayer I am and no one is going to perform it live on air. Let's do it.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, yeah. We didn't tell you guys.

  Matt Slayer This part is going to snip my balls right on it.

  Nolina Nyx Listen, I fully support you and that, like, okay, you don't wanna have kids do it, but, like, my the father of my children not do it because, like, I really want to have kids.

  Matt Slayer They want me to come in a cup for you. I can save you some girl shut.

  Nolina Nyx The fuck of. No.

  Matt Slayer Sure. Let's call.

  Nolina Nyx It's so tempting, Matt, but I'm going to pass.

  Matt Slayer Ouch. Was not a long consideration. She just. You know, I'm really kind of happy you're taking this off of the pool. No, I do not wish to pass your genes on to my offspring.

  Matt Slayer And no argument whatsoever.

  Nolina Nyx It's not. You're not. You're not the one. You're not the one.

  Matt Slayer Oh, no, I was just saying my sperm, not me.

  Nolina Nyx Your sperm is also not the one. It's. It's not going to do it for me. I'm sorry.

  Matt Slayer I'm not. Who starts the. The child support bullshit.

  Nolina Nyx That's true.

  Matt Slayer And it's like going after 25% of my income isn't really on paper that much. So that's cool. Same like, oh, child's sports. 25% my income. Cool. I'll give you guys a couple hundred a year. It's cool.

  Nolina Nyx Can I go pee.

  Matt Slayer And we're back.

  Nolina Nyx I feel better.

  Matt Slayer I like all the talk of to you. You're not the one. Just made me want to flush out my system.

  Nolina Nyx I really mean to, like, purge everything in my body. I feel like I know.

  That God.

  Matt Slayer Just the thought of my stage, just like I had a purge, I just turn my uterus off. The thought of your seed possibly taking hold in there.

  Oh.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Let's talk about something else.

  Matt Slayer So, enough of this. Enough of this fucking line of fucking conversation. Like I'm going to be violently ill mad and no one wants to see that once again. No argument, just stunned silence.

  Nolina Nyx Comedy. Comedy.

  Matt Slayer Wow. I guess that one's real.

  So oh.

  Matt Slayer Wow. She just offered to be a sperm donor to your friend, and they're like, nah, nah, nah.

  I well, I hardly.

  Nolina Nyx Have a line of people who will offer me their sperm tool. They're a little out of, like, my age range. Also.

  Matt Slayer I'm not.

  Nolina Nyx I need someone, like, 35 30.

  Matt Slayer I'm not trying to be involved. I'm just literally trying to give you my spunk in a call.

  Nolina Nyx I want someone to raise my kids with me.

  Matt Slayer Him. He can raise my kids.

  Shut up.

  Matt Slayer I like everyone wins. My awesome genetic material goes on. Oh, you get the man of your dreams to help raise my children.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Might work out because he might have a vasectomy.

  Matt Slayer Exactly. And come on. They say my kids wouldn't be smart.

  Matt Slayer Wow. Wow.

  Wow. All right.

  Matt Slayer Offer rescinded. I will not come in a cup for you. While not.

  Nolina Nyx I don't know why that makes me want to throw up artificial insemination.

  Matt Slayer Makes you wanna throw.

  Up the sky.

  Nolina Nyx Soon.

  Matt Slayer But what if that was the only way you could get pregnant?

  Nolina Nyx It's not.

  Matt Slayer But what if it was? Well, I.

  Nolina Nyx Wouldn't want your come, Matt.

  Matt Slayer I'm not saying when mine. Or is it just my stuff? What Oh. Oh, I misinterpreted that. I thought. Just the thought of artificial insemination was just my karma goddess. It does smell like steak. I get it.

  I'm so oh, I'm so.

  Matt Slayer Does this look so good? Oh, if nothing else comes out of the show, that that does it for me.

  Nolina Nyx I'm a vegetarian.

  Matt Slayer You weren't at one point.

  Nolina Nyx I know. I started eating meat after I went to the jungle and actually I ate some chicken when I was in Peru a few weeks ago because I was with my friends family, and they're all Peruvian, and they don't really understand vegetarians.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, because that's a white person's luxury you make.

  Like, my friend's sister was like.

  Nolina Nyx You have to.

  Eat. Like.

  Nolina Nyx She didn't give me an option. She told me I had to eat meat, and I just went with that. I was like, Okay, I'll eat chicken.

  Matt Slayer So you have to eat this turkey I bought for, you know.

  I can't do it.

  Matt Slayer So Nolito, as I was driving back from Vegas at one point demanded I get her a bag of Italian fresh freshener.

  Nolina Nyx I thought it was vegan. It's aliens. Aliens don't eat meat.

  Matt Slayer Aliens, armies that's debatable.

  Nolina Nyx They're kind of like they could be, like, energetic.

  Matt Slayer On not if they'd been made into jerky.

  Wait.

  Nolina Nyx What is this?

  Matt Slayer Alien or fresh jerky?

  That. Oh, it's.

  Nolina Nyx It's from a cow.

  Matt Slayer Probably.

  Nolina Nyx Cow is wrong. It's from.

  Matt Slayer A steer.

  Nolina Nyx I was in the FFA. Did you know this?

  Matt Slayer I could only assume.

  Nolina Nyx I was the vice president. Co vice president of my FFA.

  Matt Slayer Oh, my God. Look at your political career.

  Now what.

  Matt Slayer Happened?

  Nolina Nyx Now I'm a sex worker.

  Matt Slayer I have no idea what that's made of. I just purchased the bag for you as requested.

  Nolina Nyx And now I.

  Matt Slayer Just try to give it back. Try to get it back to you immediately.

  I don't want.

  Matt Slayer My sperm, I You don't want any of it?

  Nolina Nyx No, thank you.

  Matt Slayer See what you try to do for friends, and they're just like, nah, nah, that's cool, man. That's cool. That's cool.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. You know, you know how it is.

  Matt Slayer I do now, especially. I really got to take a break. Going to put out a couple of cups I had prepared for you.

  Nolina Nyx You're discussing. You're discussing.

  Well, this is this.

  Matt Slayer Where was all the talk of being a good dude now? You know, now that he's sorry about becoming a cop?

  Nolina Nyx Well, I was going to go there. We're going to have the conversation.

  Matt Slayer All right?

  Nolina Nyx This is such a man's joke.

  Matt Slayer What about coming a cop? Yeah. I mean, most women don't bottle sperm for other people than pregnant with.

  Nolina Nyx No, and we wouldn't make this joke.

  Matt Slayer You wouldn't make the joke like, yo, man, I'll pull an egg for you if you.

  Nolina Nyx I mean, maybe some girls. One, it's actually kind of funny saying it like that. It's just sperm. Just seems gross. Like an A does it seem as I like sperm? Okay. Like.

  I like just flavor professionally.

  Matt Slayer Love sperm, love sperm. Yours that not so much.

  Nolina Nyx Sounds like I just don't like most guys sperm.

  Matt Slayer Oh, okay. I see how it is.

  Nolina Nyx I'm very sperm selective.

  Matt Slayer I'm just lumped in with the anonymous dudes. I see how it is.

  Nolina Nyx I mean, we're not lovers, Matt. We're friends.

  Matt Slayer I know. I was not trying to give it to the old fashioned way. I was just trying to give you a couple.

  Nolina Nyx That's still intimate. I'm not taking everything you are to my body.

  Matt Slayer 100% is not in it. I would 100% if I was not financially responsible, donate my sperm to anyone.

  Nolina Nyx So you're telling me that you would donate your sperm to me specifically because I'm. No, Lena.

  Matt Slayer I'm just saying, if you want it, I will finish it. As long as I don't.

  Want you to stop.

  Nolina Nyx Saying that.

  Matt Slayer It's also okay. I will. No, I'm saying, like, if I don't have to raise it or be financially responsible for it, I do not care what people do with it.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but, like, that's a child. Why don't you want to love your child?

  Matt Slayer I don't want children.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, then why are you giving your sperm away?

  Matt Slayer Because it's funny.

  Nolina Nyx Okay?

  Matt Slayer Because it's fucking hilarious.

  Nolina Nyx You would be a good dad. I don't even know.

  Matt Slayer I would be a horrible father.

  Nolina Nyx He's full of shit.

  Matt Slayer Why would you possibly think I'd be a good father?

  Nolina Nyx You have a soft heart, man. Slayer. You think I can't see it?

  Matt Slayer Okay, soft hearts don't necessarily make good fathers.

  Nolina Nyx I think what makes good fathers is someone who actually cares.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, I am also. Why child? Childless, selfish.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but I think if you had a child, you would care about them.

  Matt Slayer And then I would grow to resent them because of my financial status. Of fucking. Oh, hey, I can. I can afford my life as is, and I like it. A child would be a financial burden that would make me grow to fucking hate them.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. Okay, I'm. I'm glad you're making this huge life decision, and I support you. I'm just saying that you wouldn't be a bad father.

  Matt Slayer I wholeheartedly.

  Nolina Nyx And maybe being a good father is realizing that you don't want to have kids.

  Matt Slayer Yeah.

  Nolina Nyx So you when father of the year.

  Matt Slayer All my cups assuming will be so happy about that.

  Matt Slayer So, ladies, for $7 a cup, contact is on the way. It's a little so fucking uncomfortable. She's. I really.

  Nolina Nyx I'm not supporting that message.

  Matt Slayer You don't have to. You're not involved in the milking or fucking processing.

  Matt Slayer Now. I'm just doing it. I mean.

  Nolina Nyx I actually don't know if that's true. You could be watching anything, and I'm out there on videos.

  Matt Slayer So sorry. I hate to break it to you.

  Nolina Nyx We have you ever watched my porn?

  Matt Slayer I am not.

  Nolina Nyx Are you serious?

  Matt Slayer I don't. I make it a point not to watch stuff that I'm Bill. I know in real life in it.

  Nolina Nyx Wait, you're serious? You never watched my partner. That's, like, really sweet of you.

  Matt Slayer Why?

  Nolina Nyx Because I don't know. I just feel like you respect me. Like, I actually, most of my friends watch my porn, and I would be mad if they didn't. But because you're in this industry, maybe it's, like, cool that you don't.

  Matt Slayer I just don't like the idea of jerking off to my friends. Unfortunately, because male talent is such a small pool, like, my guy friends. Unfortunately, I've probably had to rotate.

  Nolina Nyx So you wouldn't. It's mostly because of the guy.

  Matt Slayer No, no, no. I'm saying, like, I. I'm most likely probably rubbed one out while my gay friends have had sex because it's such a small pool. I just try not to watch stuff that my people I know in real life in it. Like with the caveat, if I've had sex with them, then I'll happily watch those dudes.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, you probably know all of the guys that has had sex with me and porn. Probably every single one. Probably on many.

  Matt Slayer Exactly. Because there's not the main male type. I actually try to watch shit from Europe for the most part.

  Matt Slayer Well, great. Thanks for following that up for me too. Thanks. Saying still.

  Enough. It's so funny.

  Matt Slayer No, I'm I'm. I'm really like my my two favorites of the moment are a German performer and a Spanish performer, so.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, wow. That's so cool. I love Europe. Really cool. People in Europe, it's way more open minded than America. They like looking American. I'm like, Americans are dumb.

  Matt Slayer Founded by prudes, founded by fucking prudes.

  Nolina Nyx It's also true. But I really love I mean, I love the world. Whatever. I love other places other than America.

  Matt Slayer A sound, rather comedy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. anti-American. Not violent.

  Nolina Nyx Is that what commie means in I know what commie means. I'm just meant, like, is that like.

  The I.

  Matt Slayer I'm sure a lot of people just they have no idea what communism actually stands for and just think it means un-American.

  Nolina Nyx That's oh, my God, I could say so much, but I can't because I have to be nice.

  Matt Slayer While it'd be nice.

  Nolina Nyx Because I'm from the South and I just don't want to talk about politics, but look, if you travel enough, you start realizing how fucked up America is and like, how we're so like, we think we're the best in the world and we're like the most arrogant assholes.

  Matt Slayer You know what I like to say? America is number one, it being assholes. No, we are the best marketed country on the planet.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, well said. We're just a whole bunch of shopping malls.

  Matt Slayer Like Lifestyles of the Rich and famous fucking American Dream Marketing.

  Nolina Nyx That is so true. That's. That's it. I mean, we are super lucky, but we just reap the world so fucking sad.

  Matt Slayer Well, that's. That part's not just us. That's everybody.

  Nolina Nyx That's true.

  Matt Slayer But unfortunately, as the world resource go, either your the rapist or the rape be like, there's really nobody in between, and there's nobody just like it. If people are being exploited or they're doing the exploiting, there's really no one just like we're here.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. I mean, it's really interesting in America because everyone watches American media and American politics like everyone follows. So everyone's learning from us, and we're just been fucking jackasses, like, ever, like, forever. Always.

  Nolina Nyx So annoying. It's really annoying. And then I know some people are going to watch this, like America's number one. You should be so grateful. And I'm like.

  Matt Slayer Well, it's one of those things, like, enough. It's it's strange to have fucking nationalist pride to me is a weird thing because at the end of the day, you have no control that you got shut out into this world here on this landmass.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. It makes me so fucking mad.

  Matt Slayer And especially if you know what European nationalism like, yo, hundred years ago, your borders probably weren't the borders that they are now. 300 years ago, the borders of America weren't. Aren't the borders they are now?

  It's like.

  Matt Slayer I mean, we were in where we are sitting right now.

  Nolina Nyx Was Mexico actually didn't know that?

  Mm.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, we stole the shit from Mexico. While talking with the Spanish at that point. But Yeah. This part, this part of the US, do you have another part of Mexico. Yeah. Or if you were in Louisiana or a lot of the central part of this, it's all part of fucking France.

  Nolina Nyx It's just like think just hell I can answer.

  Matt Slayer Like 150 years ago people were much more about their state pride than they were about the fuck.

  You were.

  Nolina Nyx They were, they were such a good point. It's like I just hope more people like people travel and not just travel instead of fucking four seasons or some bullshit resort. Like, no, actually fucking travel and meet people and go in the culture and stop. Like, yeah, you need to be safe. But like being trying to be so safe is what's keeping you, like, on your mind in danger?

  Matt Slayer For fuck's sake. Unless the place is an active warzone, there are people surviving and thriving wherever the fuck you go.

  Totally, totally.

  Matt Slayer And if you're a fucking idiot, like any major city in the US, someone may try to take advantage of you. Keyword. Don't be a fucking idiot.

  Yeah, exactly.

  Matt Slayer Well, me and my buddies were in Colombia. We were definitely in a park and saw some dudes like taking bumps off their knives and kind of like looking at us like, Huh, what are those gringos doing? And we went, It is time for us to leave the group call.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, my God.

  Matt Slayer It is time for us to go right now. There was no bravado. There was no like, yeah, fuck those guys. We're not. No, no, we are fucking leaving.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. The good thing is, I go down, I go down there alone to Latin America, and then, like, these third world countries, and I just figure it out, and I'm always fine and people are going to be like, Yeah, it's going to catch up with you. But like, I, I'm fucking smart about it. Like, I stay in nice places.

  Nolina Nyx I only walk around nice places, but I don't just stay in the tourist.

  Matt Slayer Bullshit, but there's no bubble around a nice place keeping bad people.

  Nolina Nyx Out. That's true. Like.

  Matt Slayer You could be fucking jacked in Beverly Hills.

  Nolina Nyx Like, there's. Yeah, exactly. There's bad people, but there's a lot of fucking good people.

  Matt Slayer Right? And that was exactly my point. Like, unless it is an act of I'm like, I'm not going to Ukraine right now.

  Yeah, fuck no.

  Matt Slayer I'm not going to Ukraine right now. It's an act of fucking warzone. I'm not going to fucking Syria. It's an act of fucking war zone. But unless there's acting, for example, there are people living and thriving there.

  Yeah.

  Matt Slayer And most people want exactly what you want. They want comfort, food and love. That's all they really want out of life. There's no reason that's going to prevent you from safely transverse in their fucking territory.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but it's so funny in America, like this fucking greed, we just, like, condition it into our society. Like, we just want more. And it's never going to be enough. More and more and more. And more and more and like. Yeah, so like, I don't mean that like. Like we're all trying to survive and, like, pay the bills because most people are living paycheck to paycheck and it's really like, you know, our fucking government, our system that we live in, capitalism that is exploiting us.

  Nolina Nyx But it's just like coming to realize, like, how much do you really need to buy? Like, come on, we're like such consumers.

  Matt Slayer We are. And I have personally, like, really weird to weird minds off it because there was a time where I essentially lived out of a suitcase for three years.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, you're so me.

  Matt Slayer And I'm like, man, I have a lot of shit sitting in storage. I don't need any of it.

  Nolina Nyx Right?

  Matt Slayer And then once I got an apartment again and unpacked everything, like, man, it's kind of nice to have my own shit.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I'm actually going through that right now. It's you.

  Matt Slayer It's it's weird.

  Matt Slayer Human beings are, like, super adaptable, but super stuck in our fucking ways. Like, we only fucking adapt when we have.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. I mean, I feel like now I'm just, like, more aware what I buy. Like, I don't. I don't just, like, go to Target and just fill a card up with random shit. Like, I just go be triggered.

  Matt Slayer I literally did that right before we got here. Thanks.

  That's a little oh, you're. You're out.

  Matt Slayer Wow. I literally walked in my apartment with a target bag.

  Nolina Nyx I saw you buy. It is not like a whole bunch of shit, like.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, I know. You're gonna have a calculator.

  Yeah, okay.

  Nolina Nyx That's that's fine. It's. It's more like. I don't know.

  Matt Slayer I was doing a bit all, and it's funny.

  Nolina Nyx How have you ever, like, thought about makeup stores? White Helmets, makeup?

  Do we need.

  Matt Slayer I mean, I need a lot. Look at the camera. I'm in a.

  Lot of.

  Nolina Nyx Crazy, and they make so much fucking money, and it's just like. And then they, you know, it feeds the thing I love. Like, I have a lot of great friends. You do, like, beautiful makeup, and it's like an art to them. And I really appreciate it, but a lot of the makeup industry feeds, like, you're not pretty enough, you're not pretty enough, and it's like.

  Matt Slayer And when somebody all the right.

  Yeah.

  Nolina Nyx So oh, my God. But like, it's just like all of these things. You're not enough. You're not enough until you have a Tesla, you're not enough until you have I don't know, fucking a five bedroom house even though you're one fucking person.

  Matt Slayer Well, and to another day. As someone who very much just bought a lot of consumer goods over the years to try to fill the hole in their heart, it doesn't help women mean from it.

  Fucking rad. Who feel feels good. It's like sex.

  Nolina Nyx Like sometimes you just start having sex with a lot of people and it's like, do I feel any better about myself now? I feel more. No, but.

  Matt Slayer But Jesus Christ in the moment. That was fucking.

  Ooh, oh, god, no.

  Nolina Nyx Sometimes I'm like, no, that was not worth my 5 hours.

  Matt Slayer That's true. That's true. But there's a lot of times I like, Oh, the new toy that makes me happy. And now. And now that new toy fucking collecting dust.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah.

  Matt Slayer Because it made me happy from it. I used it for, like, a minute. I there's definitely some camera gear that I purchased, like, oh, yeah, I'm going to use the fuck out of this. That's what I could justify. Use it, buy it. And I've used it like two or three times. I'm like, Yeah, I don't really super heavy use for it.

  Nolina Nyx I do feel like, just like being here, your home and everything. So I say.

  That, right? Yeah. No.

  Matt Slayer We're recording in my apartment oh yeah.

  Nolina Nyx Like, you know, I think you really care about your things. I think you really have a good taste for art and artistry in that things matter. So I actually think you.

  Matt Slayer Haven't seen my.

  Room.

  Matt Slayer You're my room's a war zone.

  Nolina Nyx Okay, well, like my one of my best friends, like, he he likes to buy things like random shit all the time, but he, like, really, like, appreciates it. And I think that's, like, a really healthy way to, like, buy things.

  Matt Slayer Me, personally, I should buy, be more concerned about the things I buy at times, because there's definitely especially especially as I've gotten into doing more production work there are definitely things I just bought for the dopamine hit that I justified to myself.

  Yeah.

  Matt Slayer There's like, oh, I'm helping my career by buying this.

  Nolina Nyx Right, right.

  Matt Slayer Like, it's okay. It's helping my career. It's not a waste of money.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I can see that.

  Matt Slayer Most of the time I'm right, but there's definitely some there was I really super demeanor like right now I am constantly, constantly every inch of my fucking being stopping myself from spending three grand on a camera. Do I need a $3,000 camera? Probably not right now.

  Nolina Nyx For.

  Matt Slayer What am I? Because I'm like, Oh, it'll be a better picture quality than the cameras I currently have.

  Oh, great. Yeah.

  Matt Slayer I'm like, Oh, I'll use it for other projects and stuff, so I don't really need it. That's why I have that's why my willpower has been winning out. But every once in a while, I could I could buy that. Oh, I could just buy the $3,000 cameras. I could make stunning art with a $3,000 camera.

  Nolina Nyx It's so interesting, like what people spend their money on, like, various each person.

  Matt Slayer Well, I mean, like, if.

  Nolina Nyx I have $3,000 and probably going to go to like.

  Matt Slayer Well, in the before times, in a lot of cases I would have to buy because of restricted travel.

  Nolina Nyx Oh yeah, that's true. That makes sense.

  Matt Slayer I haven't been out of the country in a couple of years and it's really fucking getting to me.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, you got to go somewhere.

  Matt Slayer I do. One of my friends moved to Puerto Vallarta. I may go down there and like, crash in a guestroom.

  Nolina Nyx Instead of going to like, the partying and everything. You should go do peyote with the ritual people I'm down. I'll go down there.

  Matt Slayer Sure. You well? Sure.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I've done peyote down there.

  Matt Slayer No, I'm staying with me. I'm just. I'm sure I. I believe you. I believe you when you show up.

  Nolina Nyx He knows me. Well.

  Matt Slayer I do.

  Nolina Nyx Because that's how I am.

  Matt Slayer I know.

  Nolina Nyx It's like how many times I said I'm going to go back into porn okay.

  Matt Slayer I thought you never left. Whoa. We lie to my audience at the beginning of the true holy shit. We said we open the show. Not only the next no love. You've just been telling me an hour and a half gone by. We've just been lying to my audience this whole fucking time for shameful enough.

  I never shame.

  Matt Slayer I worship next to you. To tell me was like, yeah, I'm out. I do want you to come in a cup.

  Nolina Nyx I hate you so I hate you so much. Oh, okay, listen.

  Matt Slayer Oh, this are going to good old.

  Nolina Nyx I never really left, but I haven't really returned. Well, I have returned this week because I actually literally had sex and came around like yesterday. But I'm returning, even though I never left.

  And that's that.

  Matt Slayer But back to your original point. Yes. You definitely were very wishy washy. I'm coming back.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, man. Because I just can't deal with this like, I don't want to just be your pound toy, and I don't like how, like, why why does every, like, why is slut ification just degrading Like, why is this still going on? Is 20, 20 do it's like.

  Matt Slayer It sells it for consoles.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but I talk to a lot of guys and like, yeah, it's like, like everyone seems to be over it except for maybe unless you're like some random ass country, like, just chillin online.

  Matt Slayer Also the sample of men you're talking to where you're talking to them or they meet these dudes like, you know, is it in your bubble of other people that are around sex work around?

  Nolina Nyx Right. They're more progressive, right?

  Matt Slayer We we live in Southern California. Well, you don't live in Southern California, Mar, but we're Southern California, West Coast. Still, we tend to be a little more progressive on shit.

  Nolina Nyx This is true. It's just like, can we start treating women a little better.

  Matt Slayer And maybe.

  Nolina Nyx Like, why is it like.

  Matt Slayer That was a joke? Do not come for me on that. That was a joke.

  Nolina Nyx I know it's a crazy request, but maybe we could be a little bit more conscious of how we treat women. Like even sexually, and then maybe we could jerk off to something more. But the cool sometimes kink.

  Matt Slayer So what do you consider ethical what do you consider unethical?

  Nolina Nyx Okay, so it all goes down to authenticity, right? If a girl really likes to get pounded like that, which I don't know if I always agree, but I do know a few girls who like to get pounded like that.

  Matt Slayer The people are paying for the fantasy. It's like going to see a fucking Marvel movie.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, well, I'm asking them to have better fantasies. They grow up. Let's go. Like, don't. Okay. I feel like a lot of guys honestly would rather watch me enjoy having sex. Then just watch me, like, just say, like, oh, yeah. My little slut. Like, you know, circular cock. Like, I have sex with a lot of men that I've had to do.

  Matt Slayer Oh, my God.

  Nolina Nyx A lot of men and a lot of men wouldn't want me. Like, we don't do that like that. They wouldn't jack off to that. Like, they don't. That's not a there's no, like, turn ons.

  Matt Slayer They're obviously someone is into it, otherwise they wouldn't keep making it.

  Nolina Nyx Well, yeah, but that's also been mostly what's been made like. Well, now there's these other companies coming up, which just.

  Matt Slayer I mean, they literally have all the metrics on these sites, like the sites have all the metrics at the point where it stops giving clicks they will stop fucking making it.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. It makes me think of like the racism in the fucking industry.

  Matt Slayer Oh, I mean, that's absolute fucking garbage. And the race playing and stuff. I can end I think that's a more problematic systemic issue then solidification.

  Nolina Nyx I think they go together, but like no certification is fine. Like if like I'm, I've been super submissive and sometimes I fucking love that shit. Okay. It's just like, I mean, they're together. Like, it's all, it's all connected. How you treat people, how you fucking treat people. You're, and you're teaching the world. This is how to treat people well.

  Matt Slayer And that's the problem. Nobody should be learning shit from horn that no one should be. I mean, yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

  Nolina Nyx It's like it's subconscious conditioning.

  Matt Slayer Well, it's also, there are people that are arguing that hid from porn because they can't have an honest and frank conversation with anyone else in their lives about sex.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, that's, that's awesome. And like Muslim fucking world, which is so sad, but like, also, like, I think, okay, this porn's never going to start like this normalized mainstream porn. It's never going to stop, but we start creating other porn people start looking at other things. So it's not just the only thing out there, you know? And I think that's it's not about even taking that stuff away.

  Nolina Nyx Well, I don't like that little girl stuff. It's gross to me, but, like, but it's going to exist, right?

  Matt Slayer And whatever sells is going to exist. It's just.

  Capitalism.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Cause people don't really care.

  Matt Slayer Well, and that's one of the things I discussed this with other providers, like the whole step, whatever trend I I am not convinced that people are actually into the taboo, the quote, taboo of step, whatever, as much as, oh, hey, I see a thumbnail with two performers I want to watch being.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah.

  Matt Slayer And I don't really give a fuck about the set up.

  Nolina Nyx Why can't they just like, stop playing that fucked up shit?

  Matt Slayer Well, the problem is they put Melina and whoever, you know, for example, in a scene and call you to step siblings and the scene does well they're not taking the time to examine, like to just do well because of the step siblings do or do too well because Melina and this other person were hot together.

  Nolina Nyx I think it would actually do even better because if they actually wrote a fucking plotline that was interesting, which sometimes they do and it's actually looks more attractive.

  Matt Slayer I, I don't know how people are actually consuming the act and part of it anymore.

  But.

  Nolina Nyx It's not about that though. It's just like how many stepbrothers scenes can you make?

  Matt Slayer Like as many get clicked.

  Nolina Nyx On like one. I don't know.

  Matt Slayer It's all about how many get clicked on.

  Nolina Nyx Like, I feel like a lot of people are just disturbed by that whole thing.

  Matt Slayer I will tell you firsthand and stuff so long since I've ever like dropped off to, it's just been like, Oh, these two are hot. Like I don't, I'm not paying attention to the set up and the way, shape or form. Like, I'm literally skipping through the fucking and.

  I.

  Nolina Nyx Know, but like, come on, even, okay. And then the fucking it's like there was like I really did like shooting for browsers and reality things like that was a lot of fun. But I saw like this other shit and not America. I like them to they were great. It's just, you know, because it's still like, goofy and fun, but like, you know, it's, I don't know, we in the sex was fun.

  Nolina Nyx Like, it was fun. Though some of it was like crazy pounding. I didn't like that, but it wasn't, like, so degrading, like, losing.

  Matt Slayer A lot of it. Unfortunately, it's supposed to be acting like the ordinary. The production doesn't really care if you're enjoying yourself. They just want you to look like you are.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but these girls don't look like they are.

  Matt Slayer Well, they're bad actors.

  Nolina Nyx Have you watched porn?

  Matt Slayer Like, once or twice?

  Nolina Nyx The ones that are good actors. It's so it's.

  Matt Slayer Oh, no, there are definitely some performers. That every scene they do, it looks like this is the best act they've ever had.

  Nolina Nyx I don't know, because they're just looking like because you guys are guys. Because you just they're just looking like I'm fucking bullshit. Like women who actually enjoy sex. We fucking know.

  Matt Slayer Some people sell it better than others.

  Nolina Nyx I know just guys are kind of dumb.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. Sometimes that loser brain takes over you.

  Is.

  Nolina Nyx Just, like, so easy, but, I mean, the guys I really like, like, just get it.

  Which is cool.

  Nolina Nyx So it actually just filters it out for me.

  Right, right, right.

  Matt Slayer But I'm not talking about real life sex. I'm talking about porn sex where at the end of the day, the goal is to be esthetically pleasing, sell a product.

  Nolina Nyx But like, eventually, I hope we start really understanding people and body language. And you can see that like they're acting, I'm sure.

  Matt Slayer But the problem is you're also not going to always be able to pair two performers that look really fucking good together that will have any real fucking chemistry.

  Nolina Nyx I know people are just trying to make their money. I understand. I just want to enjoy it.

  Matt Slayer It is show business, not so fucking.

  Nolina Nyx I understand. I think there's a market for.

  Matt Slayer I don't disagree that there's a market for it. I'm just saying it may not be in the mass appeal market that the McDonald's a porn that browsers is.

  Nolina Nyx No, I think browsers. I think actually browsers is pretty chill like that. Sex was like compared to all the other porn sites. It was really good.

  Matt Slayer But that also were. How many different performers did you work with on a browser set?

  Nolina Nyx I worked with World Pounder and Xanadu Corvus.

  Matt Slayer Okay. So of the simple pool, you worked with two good well-established male talent yes. So that may not have been on browsers that may have just been on your costar that day.

  Nolina Nyx Browsers paired me up.

  Matt Slayer Well, I know you didn't work with Zander on it was a process contractor, but have you worked with Will on any other set where it was a bad experience?

  Nolina Nyx No.

  Matt Slayer So that may not necessarily be your browsers then, but who your costar was that day.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but browsers prepares me nice. I feel like they they did a good job of pairing me with people that I would enjoy.

  Matt Slayer But I'm not sure that that was in their consideration when they did it.

  But I want to say they were nice.

  Matt Slayer Oh, no, it's awesome that it worked out well. It's awesome that you had a great season with them. But at the end of the day, are we deluding ourselves to think like, oh, they had any consideration on how it would be for you besides if.

  Nolina Nyx They had you in a in a way, maybe they didn't really see it, but like.

  Matt Slayer They probably went hey, those two would look hot together. It'll make a good scene. I don't think there was any consideration. This is not going to have a good time talking to these people.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. But like, let's bring that into a no, you know, 20, 22. Let's think that.

  All if any.

  Nolina Nyx People are watching this, let's take that into consideration.

  Matt Slayer If any people are watching this house. Ouch.

  Ouch.

  Nolina Nyx Because it's important to me to make porn that I enjoy. And that's my whole niche. That's what I'm going for.

  Matt Slayer Well, and that's why I suggest you be self-employed.

  Nolina Nyx I'm also really good a sex like I also like no, I like enjoy sex like I'm really good to enjoy sex. So it's not like I'm looking for a level of perfection. It's just like like just get over your ego a little bit and let's have fun. Like, yeah, it's really that that usually gets in the way some fucking guys ego doing that.

  Matt Slayer They're God's gift to women or what yeah.

  Nolina Nyx I mean, you know, some of these male porn.

  Stars oh, yeah.

  Nolina Nyx I'm. I really want your cock. Yeah, really? Because there's no other guys on this planet who want to give me their amazing cock. There's actually a lot of guys are really great in this industry, but have big.

  Egos.

  Nolina Nyx Or just don't understand the I mean, I don't know, I just like sex.

  Matt Slayer Well, that's good. You're in the right line of work.

  Right?

  Matt Slayer Absolutely. Nothing wrong with.

  Nolina Nyx That. It's just all the other bullshit around it. Like, if we could just stop with all the bullshit and just like, enjoy. So it's like.

  Matt Slayer Well, yeah, but there's there's a major difference between enjoying sex in the really real world and doing it for work.

  Nolina Nyx True. But okay, like, yeah, I'm always probably going to enjoy the sex more in my personal life, but there's ways to create a sexual experience. I, I'm a blessed person who understands how to do that, and so I'm taking responsibility for doing that.

  Matt Slayer Cool. That's awesome. Do it.

  Nolina Nyx Every year. Oh, well. And and taken to consideration that no Lina personally, no people she will enjoy having sex with not people with bad reputations.

  Matt Slayer Well, don't pair anyone with people a bad reputation.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but they don't give a fuck.

  If.

  Matt Slayer You're just illustrating my point. Just you're literally just illustrating my point.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, but if this is my thing, know, I'm speaking out about it and more people are going to like, support them if they're going to, they're going to watch my stuff when I'm enjoying it.

  Matt Slayer Well, ideally, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a hotter scene when you're legitimately into it.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Every fucking time. Sure. I would literally just be like, no, I can teach the guy how to make myself enjoy it. I'll take responsibility.

  Matt Slayer All right. Sounds like a lot of work. That sounds exhausting.

  Nolina Nyx Well, I'm not going to do that many scenes, Matt. I really like the semantic like erotica. It's not so much.

  Matt Slayer Just want to spread your wings on their acting chops.

  Nolina Nyx Oh, my gosh. You should have saw me today. Like, doing my acting I seduce this man with my my acting like he was, like, hard from just me.

  Matt Slayer And that's good, right?

  I'm.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, I it's so weird. I thought I can never act, and all of a sudden, it's working out.

  Matt Slayer I hate to break it to you. You've been a sex worker a long time. I'm sure you've had to do a lot of fucking acting.

  It's actually really good for you.

  Matt Slayer It's true. I'm sure you have been out in, like, oh, yeah, I'm completely acting that I'm enjoying this right now. Like this. Conversation, this dinner.

  Nolina Nyx All the conversations.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, it's all fucking acting.

  Nolina Nyx I won't even. I don't fake orgasms for guys, like.

  Matt Slayer Oh, I wasn't suggesting you do. I'm just saying, like, I know.

  Nolina Nyx I was just bringing that up as an extra piece.

  Matt Slayer To push it that.

  Nolina Nyx Like, I need them to, like, know the truth.

  Matt Slayer The that they're all inferior, and it can't make NOLA.com.

  Nolina Nyx It's not an ego thing. It's not about me coming. You can't just fucking give me money and then, like, expect to bring me pleasure. Like, this is not how this works. Like, you're coming for yourself or don't even bother.

  Matt Slayer So folks, you can give me money and give me pleasure for sure. For sure. If you give me money, it will bring me massive pleasure. Massive.

  Nolina Nyx It's a gift to give me pleasure. And you got to get to know the art but I can also like like in the porn industry, it's cool because I'm working with other sex workers, so we're kind of like I'm somewhat level grant.

  Matt Slayer Also, you're acting.

  Nolina Nyx I'm not acting with sex anymore.

  Matt Slayer Matt Okay. At all.

  Nolina Nyx They sometimes I have a few words like like I just did a scene but I was playing someone in the 1800s, so I needed to.

  Matt Slayer Lay there and just get pounded because I don't think men were allowed to enjoy sex in the 1800s.

  Nolina Nyx I'm pretty sure they were slutty and we just.

  Matt Slayer Oh no they moments later I don't think they were able to date on who they were legally allowed to enjoy it though I feel like in the 1800s if you enjoyed sex they burned you at the station for being a which.

  Nolina Nyx I was acting and yes they were.

  Matt Slayer That burned you at the stake which what is that what do the female orgasms possessed by a demon.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Oh my god exactly like women who feel they're sexual it's still that fucking way like people are horrified of women who fucking own their sexuality so they come up with like, oh she's full of demons or some shit. I'm so tired of that.

  Matt Slayer Yeah. The only time I ever said a woman's full of demons is when I finished inside her.

  Not shut up.

  Nolina Nyx Is crazy.

  What?

  Matt Slayer What what would lead you to that assumption?

  Matt Slayer She's got nothing, folks. She has nothing to back that up. She's just throwing wild accusations of me being crazy out there. Okay, podcast work better when you talk to later.

  Nolina Nyx Okay. I don't know what to talk about right now. Hold on. Let me think about so much.

  Matt Slayer And that I'm just off here, right? It bit so.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, well, porn, all of this stuff. Like what a trip the last year has been. It's been a year since I left the industry and I learned a lot and I saw and like a lot of fucking emotional, just fucking sadness for a long time, but not in a bad way. I was like, I was literally processing it.

  Nolina Nyx It was really cool because I wanted to understand, like, what was going on and what I'm doing and what I want. And I don't want to hate the porn industry. I don't want to blame the porn industry because the porn industry isn't nothing to blame. It's doing really good work. It's really important, actually. It gives people the way the outlet to explore their sexuality, and I really support that.

  Nolina Nyx But like, I don't have to do it like everyone else does it. I can do it my own way, which is so cool.

  Matt Slayer And yeah, you definitely can. You definitely can.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. So why don't I just do that, which is what I'm doing.

  Matt Slayer So Nate.

  I said this is a billion times.

  Nolina Nyx This where.

  Matt Slayer People can do it.

  Nolina Nyx People really like when I talk about ayahuasca in here, I feel like I should talk about ayahuasca.

  Matt Slayer For the reasons I'm, I'm not opposed to such things.

  For the.

  Nolina Nyx Ratings. And because it's my thing like people is like people all year have been messaging me about this podcast, actually. Oh, so I was just in Peru. I did ayahuasca recently and I've been cooking my own ayahuasca now.

  Matt Slayer Didn't bring me any it.

  Nolina Nyx Didn't bring you any. I feel like I need to create a really sacred space and like.

  Matt Slayer My couch is pretty sacred.

  Nolina Nyx I had a friend who held the ceremony and this man, like this man almost attacked me in Peru just recently. So I had to, like, really process that and then my what.

  Matt Slayer Happened.

  Nolina Nyx So I was in ceremony and it's like so much more to explain than I like there's more going on than I can explain. But basically I went to this man ceremony I literally didn't do anything to provoke him. He was just provoked by my presence. And he just started asking me like these questions like, what do you want to do with your life?

  Nolina Nyx You need to put your energy somewhere. You have all this energy. What are you going to do? With it, like in the middle of ceremony where you're not even like, you shouldn't even talk? And I say shouldn't lightly. They don't, like, worry about so much with rules but like and then I was just like, why are you asking me these questions?

  Nolina Nyx Like, this is ridiculous. And I just threw it back on him and like, worry about yourself. Have your own experience I can hold myself in this. I've drank ayahuasca more than enough times, and I probably understand this world more than you. And I don't mean that. Like, I know what's going on it's just I understand it and I'm comfortable in the chaos.

  Nolina Nyx And he just wouldn't leave me alone like this. You know, you have an experience for six to 8 hours, but it feels like days, like it feels like it's never going to end. And there was like two points. One time he came over to me and like, I was laying down and he was like just about to touch me, like, but like, near my hips, like, near my genitals, and, like, thank God there was like, I see genitals like this.

  Nolina Nyx Like I said.

  Whatever her.

  Matt Slayer Vagina or.

  Nolina Nyx My vagina or whatever, like, and like this girl is having to be there on the same time and like, just be, like, switched out. Like, she saved me. And it was just like, this is going on. But like, you're in an experience, so it's like a psychedelic thing is happening. And I was just like always ahead of the game.

  Nolina Nyx So he was just, I don't know, the whole time he was like yelling at me, yelling at me, yelling at me and asking me these questions. And it was more about me, like helping him calm down. Then, like, it was his ceremony, like this guy holds ceremonies and people pay him to do that, and I have to hold space for him.

  Nolina Nyx And this is like not just this guy. This just happened so many times in my life. It's ridiculous.

  Matt Slayer Well, that's fucking miserable.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, it was actually really scary. It was really scary. And then my so I'm just like, really? I want to I can definitely hold ceremony by myself, and I'm fine, but it really helps when I have a man there who can, like, help mean, like, not get hurt, like, how someone might freak out and hurt me, but I'm always okay I'm always okay.

  Matt Slayer Well.

  Nolina Nyx That was kind of a sad story.

  Matt Slayer Yeah, well, a little. A little sad.

  Nolina Nyx Sorry. This is a comedy show.

  Matt Slayer I mean, we obviously talk about some real shit on here occasionally.

  Yeah, well, actually, we're just like, this whole podcast is super you.

  Matt Slayer I don't know, me coming in a couple. Not very deep. Okay, but. But it could be.

  Nolina Nyx I, like, almost didn't want to drink ayahuasca anymore, because, like, all of this patriarchal shit is so much in that world.

  Matt Slayer But you're cooking yourself.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. No, no, I'm fine. Like, I drink it by myself and stuff, but.

  Matt Slayer I'm so rude. Not sure. And with the glass. The glass behind me, but.

  Nolina Nyx I know I need because I need to do it in a sacred place here. Like, I need to have.

  Matt Slayer My couch is super sacred.

  Nolina Nyx I actually agree. I agree. But something even better.

  Matt Slayer On my couch. What the fuck out of my couch?

  Nolina Nyx I'm going to go to Peru, I think, next month and go with these indigenous women just because I need to fucking clear up my own trauma right now.

  Matt Slayer Super helpful. Actually, I'm not even make Joe the cool.

  Thank you.

  Matt Slayer I like that. That that that's too wholesome for me to make a joke about.

  Who you really real. Because I, like, just want to sometimes share.

  Nolina Nyx Not just this guy, but like just the past year, like the the plant medicine world has ripped my heart into pieces.

  Matt Slayer I know, and I know that's what you like to say. Just take a step back from the business to more heavily pursue. And then I was really surprised when you're like, fuck this too.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah. Like, it was just like the patriarchy was fucking everywhere. And I honestly, I feel safer in sex work than I do in a lot of those worlds because they don't understand sexual energy yet. They're like, they're they really don't understand it. And women like women who are liberated with their sexuality and, and there's just a lot of sexual abuse happening.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, it's really sad. So I really like ayahuasca and I highly recommend it.

  Matt Slayer Well, one of these days one of these is when the Luna actually shows up and you'll actually bring me ayahuasca and we will do ayahuasca. Yes. One of these days, yes.

  Nolina Nyx How do you like.

  Matt Slayer 2024?

  Nolina Nyx It's always in perfect timing. That's always perfect timing.

  Matt Slayer Do I ever mention that I have problems with delayed gratification? Ever.

  Nolina Nyx Maybe that's why.

  Matt Slayer I am constantly chasing the dopamine dragon.

  Nolina Nyx I think I didn't realize how much I needed to love myself. It's not like I didn't need like I don't need to learn more. I just needed to learn that how much I fucking love myself to, like, help me like, expand my cycle. I say psychedelic my other worldly experiences and share it with people like from a like I don't I just don't need power over anyone.

  Nolina Nyx I just want to share it with people for free.

  Matt Slayer Hopefully that happens for you.

  Nolina Nyx But also like I'm doing it with with or without any substance. I'm already tripping balls all the time. This is why this whole podcast is like fucking deep.

  Matt Slayer I'm in different minds. Real shallow, real shallow, real shallow.

  Matt Slayer Toes barely getting wet.

  Shallow.

  Matt Slayer We're all about some superficial shit on the side of the table.

  Nolina Nyx You're so here's so not here's so deep. Here's a dove. He's not a superficial.

  Matt Slayer I'm very superficial super, super duper.

  Nolina Nyx Yeah, totally.

  Matt Slayer Well, no, no, no. On that note, it's actually less columns, motherfucker. Oh.

  Oh.

  Nolina Nyx I ran out of my my shrink.

  Matt Slayer That's okay with another one. Once we wrap up, where can they find you on the things okay.

  Nolina Nyx You can find me on Twitter. Noeleen, an ex at Noeleen, an ex on Instagram at Noeleen and Nic's easy i have an onlyfans, but it's like at no lena dash. Nick.

  So a little.

  Nolina Nyx Confusing.

  Matt Slayer It's okay. My branding source. So go check on the.

  Love you.

  Matt Slayer Already do. All i even offered to come in a cup for you. Wow. That was my polar fighting idea. That's the honest one. But the i love you was for the camera. That issue was the real. That was the real. But as always, you can find me on matt underscore slater on twitter, matt lauer on instagram, madoff and on facebook, twitch dot tv slash matt evans.

  Matt Slayer There you could find that the patron at page red dot com slash months later you can find the podcast ad and now a drink on Twitter and now we drink underscore on Instagram til next week. Drink up motherfuckers Drink of.